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Old 09-27-2007, 07:21 PM   #1
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Default Top five of the last forty years ?

Name your top five fighters of the last forty years in terms of natural boxing ability.

CONSIDER

speed
reflexes
style
movement
ring generalship
offence
defence
timing
counterpunching

Just to get the old ball rolling, in chronological order:

Ali
Leonard
Sweetpea
Jones
Mayweather
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:30 PM   #2
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Hm, you mentioned my choices already but i think Tyson and Duran are up there with these guys.

Donīt forget John Ruiz!
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Old 09-27-2007, 07:36 PM   #3
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Well, i donīt think he has to be mentioned, it is common knowledge that nobody ever came close to the natural boxing ability of the bearded warrior.

Agreed, his skills are just in another league, that wouldnīt be fair for the likes of Duran, SRL, etc...
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Old 09-28-2007, 01:11 AM   #4
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1967-2007

Duran

Hagler

Chavez

Whitaker

Ali

Loosely in that order.
If it were the past 50 years and thus included the 1960s, then Ali is on top.
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Old 09-28-2007, 01:38 AM   #5
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Default Re: Top five of the last forty years ?

Ali
RJJ
Tyson
Sweet Pea
Toney
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:06 AM   #6
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Ali
Sweet Pea
Leonard
Tyson
Duran
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:48 AM   #7
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Default Re: Top five of the last forty years ?

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Name your top five fighters of the last forty years in terms of natural boxing ability.

CONSIDER

speed
reflexes
style
movement
ring generalship
offence
defence
timing
counterpunching

Just to get the old ball rolling, in chronological order:

Ali
Leonard
Sweetpea
Jones
Mayweather
those would also be my choices
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Old 09-28-2007, 07:34 AM   #8
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Default Re: Top five of the last forty years ?

Muhammad Ali
Pernell Whitaker
Roberto Duran
Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy Jones, Jr.
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:27 AM   #9
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RJJ
Hagler


doesn't matter who the other ones are.
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Old 09-28-2007, 10:35 AM   #10
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Default Re: Top five of the last forty years ?

I will only include a fighter who's career started from 1967 onwards, or at least won their first world title 1967 onwards. Muhammad Ali's prime can't be counted, so he's not in my top five.

Roberto Duran
Sugar Ray Leonard
Pernell Whitaker
Marvin Hagler
Roy Jones Jr
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Ali
RJJ
Tyson
Sweet Pea
Toney

Toney? Cīmon...
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Old 09-28-2007, 03:44 PM   #12
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Name your top five fighters of the last forty years in terms of natural boxing ability.

CONSIDER

speed
reflexes
style
movement
ring generalship
offence
defence
timing
counterpunching

Just to get the old ball rolling, in chronological order:

Ali
Leonard
Sweetpea
Jones
Mayweather
Ali
Leonard
Duran
JonesJnr
Hagler/Whitaker
On the bench Holmes,Napoles,Foster.
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Old 09-28-2007, 05:38 PM   #13
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Default Re: Top five of the last forty years ?

Duran
leonard
Ali
Jones
tyson

Even though i don't think jones was as great as people say, he did have some great ability. for me though, he never proved that he had the killer instinct, heart and chin required to be a great fighter
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Old 09-29-2007, 12:21 PM   #14
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Ali
Leonard
Sweetpea
Jones
Mayweather
If you are talking pure boxers who use reflexes, speed & rarely allow themselves to get dragged into a brawl then, my friend, I agree 100% with your top 5.

If your talking just plain greatest fighters p4p then my list is
ali
leonard
duran
whitaker
chavez

3 stay the same but I rate duran & chavez a notch higher than jones & floyd.

Good stuff nonetheless.
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Old 09-29-2007, 05:32 PM   #15
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Jones and Hagler stand out as the most complete fighters. I consider Jones to fit the definition of a true sugar Ray.

Ali wasn't a complete fighter and his defense really suffered. you can't say Muhammud was a great defensive fighter although, he had to be the showman of the century-the most influencial athlete I've ever seen.

Other fighters to consider as top flight boxers-the slickest of the slick are Camacho and Thomas Hearns who was very hard to outbox. You could throw in Pernell. He had top flight skills who learned everything he knew from his idol, Camacho.
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