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Old 01-24-2010, 04:21 AM   #31
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Eubank over McClellan
Dempsey over Wlad
Holyfield over Tyson

EDIT: And a speculative Marciano over Lewis
haha good shout Sayers - Dempsey over Wlad was going to be my next one (Vlad hasn't even got a linear claim has he?? Vit has the closer linear claim doesn't he?? and the better chance??) This is one of those stonewall certainty ones for me - can't ever get Vlad vs Corrie Sanders out of my mind I'm afraid - that for me left an indelible mark on Vlad - i know some might say he was a bit green but I think he was better then - he's been fighting scared ever since - unfortunately you can't train a good chin and you don't develop one over the course of 6 or so years - Dempsey could smell fear and vulnerability and would be on him like a pit bull - things look really bad for Klit in this one- hopefully the ref doesn't let it keep going on like the Willard fight (that's if Klit gets up from the first knockdown?)
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Old 01-24-2010, 04:45 AM   #32
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James Toney - Joe Louis
Chris Byrd - Joe Louis
David Tua - Joe Louis
Mike Tyson - Joe Louis
Ike Ibeabuchi - Joe Louis
Kirk Johnson - Joe Louis
Vitali Klitschko - Joe Louis
Vitali Klitschko - Muhammad Ali
Vitali Klitschko - Larry Holmes
Wladimir Klitschko - Muhammad Ali
Wladimir Klitschko - Larry Holmes
Wladimir Klitschko - Ken Norton
Michael Spinks - Ezzard Charles
Antonio Tarver - Georges Carpentier
Roy Jones - Ezzard Charles
Julian Jackson - Thomas Hearns
Thomas Hearns - Mike McCallum
Merqui Sosa - Ray Robinson
Marvin Hagler - Ray Robinson
Vassily Jirov - Ingemar Johnson
Oneil Bell - Floyd Patterson
Michael Moorer - Archie Moore
Michael Moorer - Harold Johnson
Dwight Braxton - Archie Moore
Chad Dawson - Muhammad Saad
Antonio Tarver - Muhammad Saad
James Toney - Bernard Hopkins


winners on the left , more may be added in the future
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:07 AM   #33
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Frazier over the Klitschkos
Duran over Mayweather (everyone knows Duran would win, I'd just love to see Mayweather get the **** beat out of him)
Dempsey over Marciano
Ketchel over LaMotta
Marciano over Jeffries
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:44 AM   #34
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Marciano had more one shot power imo ,and better two fisted power also.
I see Frazier as a quicker puncher ,but more of a volume hitter.
Marciano fought in a crouch leaning over to his right.
Frazier bobbed and weaved up and down.
Rocky caught quite a few jabs in his open right glove as did Norton.
Frazier caught more of them with his forehead.Hence the lumps and bumps.
Norton and Frazier had only one thing in common imo, neither could fight backing up.
Norton beat Ali by taking away the effectiveness of his jab,and going to Ali's body immediately after Ali had thrown the jab.
Yeah, like i said he mixes qualities of Norton and Frazier, that awkwardness and relentness, to be brief. Good post.
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Old 01-24-2010, 05:50 AM   #35
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Ali over Tyson
Liston over Marciano
Conteh over Calzaghe
Duran over Benny Leonard
Ray Leonard over Floyd Mayweather Jr
Robinson over Burley (thats just a "what if" fight I'd like to see, I've not seen enough of Burely to make a firm prediction)

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Old 01-24-2010, 06:17 AM   #36
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Match 1: Bob Fitzsimmons vs Lennox Lewis - What better fight is there? The greatest Super small heavyweight ever meeting the greatest Large SuperHeavyweight.

Win lose or draw, i am certain that prime Fitz would make a fight of it with Lennox and even if he did lose, it would not be the one round blow out people expect. Anything more than 5 rounds would be a stunning success for the early boys and to be honest, Fitz has as much chance against Louis as he does against any superheavyweight. i can see Lennox getting overconfident and getting sparked the exact same way as he has previously in his career.

Match 2:
Jack Johnson vs Tommy Morrison - Tommy is held in high regard and seen as a modern big hitter and the best white fighter for a while. He isnt in the same league as Johnson. I think this is the safest money bet to see a big name modern Great White Hope take the same road as those of Jack's time. Johnson makes him look the fool. A no risk fight, where i simply dont give Tommy a chance.

Match 3:
Jim Corbett vs Old George Foreman - Old George Foreman was considered a modern superheavy, but he was quite honestly and simply too slow and old for Prime Corbett. Corbett would hit him so hard and often, he either stops him or wins every round. Even if he does run into one like Moorer (very unlikely) it is nothing that Jeffries or Fitz didnt do anyway. Corbett has a real old style, but he is a real lot better than given credit.

Fred Fulton vs Chris Areolla - I was tempted to give Willard a shot at Vitali, but this is a better fight. Fulton will win the fight and be equally as dominant as vitali was. With the fight, people start to realise the quality of several other great fighters, and because of the class difference, there is no chance of a mismatch, and even if there is, it can be writtne off since Fulton was kod in his own time.

Match 5:
James J Jeffries vs Riddick Bowe - I was going to sign a Jeffries Tyson fight here, which would have been high risk, since Tyson is capable of pulling a KO1 over anyone, which might be too big a risk. Instead, i have gone with Riddick bowe, who would prevent a stationery Target for Jeffries. If Jeffries lands a left hook as often as Holy did in the first fight, we are seeing an early night.
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Old 01-24-2010, 07:12 AM   #37
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donaire UD canto
pacquiao KO chavez
lewis KO foreman
leonard UD jones at 160
sanchez KO saddler
hagler UD hopkins
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:14 AM   #38
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donaire UD canto
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:37 AM   #39
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Frazier over Tyson
Buchanan over Pacquiao
Jersey Joe Walcott over Foreman
Kid Norfolk over Tunney
Frazier over Prime Ali
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Frazier over Tyson
Buchanan over Pacquiao
Jersey Joe Walcott over Foreman
Kid Norfolk over Tunney
Frazier over Prime Ali
Nice pick on Buchanan over Pacquiao, I want to agree, i'm a little bit reluctant but i think i ultimately would do to be honest.
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Old 01-24-2010, 10:36 AM   #41
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James Toney - Joe Louis
Chris Byrd - Joe Louis
David Tua - Joe Louis
Mike Tyson - Joe Louis
Ike Ibeabuchi - Joe Louis
Kirk Johnson - Joe Louis
Vitali Klitschko - Joe Louis
Vitali Klitschko - Muhammad Ali
Vitali Klitschko - Larry Holmes
Wladimir Klitschko - Muhammad Ali
Wladimir Klitschko - Larry Holmes
Wladimir Klitschko - Ken Norton
Michael Spinks - Ezzard Charles
Antonio Tarver - Georges Carpentier
Roy Jones - Ezzard Charles
Julian Jackson - Thomas Hearns
Thomas Hearns - Mike McCallum
Merqui Sosa - Ray Robinson
Marvin Hagler - Ray Robinson
Vassily Jirov - Ingemar Johnson
Oneil Bell - Floyd Patterson
Michael Moorer - Archie Moore
Michael Moorer - Harold Johnson
Dwight Braxton - Archie Moore
Chad Dawson - Muhammad Saad
Antonio Tarver - Muhammad Saad
James Toney - Bernard Hopkins


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Well one or the other of us would end up looking rather silly in the aftermath of those matches.

Personaly I think that you would get about two of them right.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:20 AM   #42
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Max Baer vs Wladimir Klitschko

Alexis Arguello vs Floyd Mayweather at 130

Bob Fitzsimmons vs Edison Miranda (to
get a gauge on 'where he's at,
give him someone who we can gauge him against who's going to allow Fitz to operate, and at super-middle too, which is where prime Fitz would probably be today, either side could effectively 'prove their point' here)
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:24 AM   #43
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Oh, yeah and Conteh over Calzaghe, man did I get stressed with certain responses to that lately, and by some good posters too.
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Old 01-24-2010, 11:49 AM   #44
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Marciano TKO 15 AlI
JJ Walcott w15 Tyson
Jack Dempsey KO5 Vlad Klitschko
Joe Louis KO 5 George Foreman
Joe Louis Ko 8 Lennox Lewis
Marciano KO Holmes in 11
Louis KO Holmes in 8
JJ Walcott KO 9 George Foreman

These are not definite but hunches that could happen
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Old 01-24-2010, 01:02 PM   #45
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Great thread ...

Louis - Vitali
Frazier - Wlad
Langford - Marciano
Holmes-Lewis
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