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Old 01-23-2010, 05:25 PM   #1
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Default How good were the British & European Champs (1950-75)?

Not much coverage was given in the United States of the European and British Champions 1950-1975.

Just how really good were these fighters?
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Old 01-23-2010, 05:32 PM   #2
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British fighters dominated boxing for 200 years, from 1700 to 1900, then something went badly wrong.
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Old 01-24-2010, 02:05 PM   #3
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Not much coverage was given in the United States of the European and British Champions 1950-1975.

Just how really good were these fighters?
Some were very good and won World Titles (before all the multiple titles) in addition to the regional belts. Here are a few that have to be considered top notch.

1. Ken Buchanan
2. Howard Winstone
3. John Stracey
4. Joe Bugner
5. Chris Finnegan
6. Kevin Finnegan
7. John Conteh
8. Alan Minter
9. Jean Claude Bouttier
10. Several others as well...
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Old 01-24-2010, 02:37 PM   #4
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Walter McGowan and Alan Rudkin were sensational fighters.
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Old 01-24-2010, 02:50 PM   #5
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As good as today's beltholders imo. Many were good enough to beat the American top contenders but rarely got the chance to prove it. Hard to say really but imo the European title was as much worth as one belt is today in this time period and earlier.
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Old 01-24-2010, 02:54 PM   #6
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Walter McGowan and Alan Rudkin were sensational fighters.


Also, Dave Charnley, Terry Downes, and Eckhard Dagge should be mentioned.
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Old 01-24-2010, 03:36 PM   #7
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Also, Dave Charnley, Terry Downes, and Eckhard Dagge should be mentioned.
Criminally forgotten.
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A lot of them are up there as some of the finest boxers ever in their weights. Most notably Ken Buchanan and Walter McGowan
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Old 01-24-2010, 03:49 PM   #9
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A lot of older guys that saw Charnley live reckon he was better than Buchanan.

Not sure i'd agree with that, but he's a seriously underrated fighter who was quite poorly managed from what i've read.Thrown into a lot of fights at short notice against bigger opponents etc.
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Old 01-24-2010, 04:57 PM   #10
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Criminally forgotten.
He's my old mans favorite fighter. I have a couple of his fights but not the Ring FOTY against Brown.
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Old 01-24-2010, 07:53 PM   #11
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Rocky Mattioli, Bruno Acari, & Gratein Tonna were European Champs and also World Class fighters. Mattioli and Acari were world champions as well.
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joe bugner was a talanted fighter but lacked the killer instinct to be truly great
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Default Re: How good were the British & European Champs (1950-75)?

The British title back in them days meant more than today and the standard was higher. British champ in them days was usually best at the weight and you wouldn't get a World (undisputed) in the day title shot without at least being British champ.
Same goes for European.
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Old 01-25-2010, 03:24 AM   #14
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Charles Humez, Gustav Scholz are others that are in this group.
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Old 01-25-2010, 03:49 AM   #15
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He's my old mans favorite fighter. I have a couple of his fights but not the Ring FOTY against Brown.
Well my old man passed away quite a long while ago and he was his favourite also.
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