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Old 01-25-2010, 07:22 PM   #16
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Until Floyd 'mans up' so to speak there will always be these two schools of thought.
And until he does that, I'm going with Sanchez over 12 or 15
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Old 01-26-2010, 07:00 AM   #17
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Mayweather wanted to fight Hamed at a 128 catchweight, this would be an apropriate weight for this fight. If Naz beat MAB he was looking at this fight or Morales, Hamed was the cash cow then and probably could have made FMJ drain down to 126.

Either way Mayweather UD, too much speed, too accurate, and very hard to hit. Sanchezis a very good boxer, but not as good, his pressure makes it tough, but it wont be enough as he'll miss more than ever and his sometimes slapping/wider shots will be countered silly
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Old 01-26-2010, 07:22 AM   #18
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I can't argue with your reasoning either to be fair. Until Floyd 'mans up' so to speak there will always be these two schools of thought.
How exactly wasnt Floyd 'manning up' at 130-135? As a 21yo he dominated long time champion considered no1 in the division Hernandez, who had never lost at 130. In his next fight he dominted Manfredy who was fresh off beating up IBF champ Gatti. He then fights 4 contenders before getting in the ring with the feared WBA Champ Corrales, who was P4P top 5. Corrales was knocking out everyone in his path, destroying unbeated champ Garcia, manfredy and Gainer. Corrales would later beat Casamayor, Castillo and Freitas, all of the best from 130-135. Then he moves to 135 beats Castillo who is considered the best LW from 2000-2005 twice

Lets also remember Mayweather as a 130lber was calling out Mosley/Delahoya at WW and Hamed at 126. Neither MAB or Morales were in a hurry to goto 130 to fight him either

All this ducking talk was started by Arrum, who wanted floyd on a 3 fight deal at $8million per fight, when Floyd wanted Delahoya for $30-50million. Floyd went for the biggest money fights from 140-147 and was actually turned down multiple times by Hatton, Mosley, Judah and yes even Margarito
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Old 01-26-2010, 07:32 AM   #19
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How exactly wasnt Floyd 'manning up' at 130-135? As a 21yo he dominated long time champion considered no1 in the division Hernandez, who had never lost at 130. In his next fight he dominted Manfredy who was fresh off beating up IBF champ Gatti. He then fights 4 contenders before getting in the ring with the feared WBA Champ Corrales, who was P4P top 5. Corrales was knocking out everyone in his path, destroying unbeated champ Garcia, manfredy and Gainer. Corrales would later beat Casamayor, Castillo and Freitas, all of the best from 130-135. Then he moves to 135 beats Castillo who is considered the best LW from 2000-2005 twice

Lets also remember Mayweather as a 130lber was calling out Mosley/Delahoya at WW and Hamed at 126. Neither MAB or Morales were in a hurry to goto 130 to fight him either

All this ducking talk was started by Arrum, who wanted floyd on a 3 fight deal at $8million per fight, when Floyd wanted Delahoya for $30-50million. Floyd went for the biggest money fights from 140-147 and was actually turned down multiple times by Hatton, Mosley, Judah and yes even Margarito
Your penis is going to feel like a convict being released after 20 years in the clink when you eventually pull it out of Mayweather's asshole.
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Your penis is going to feel like a convict being released after 20 years in the clink when you eventually pull it out of Mayweather's asshole.
When you can't make a counter argument stoop to gay insults, works everytime And lets remember Pacquaio walked away from a Mayweather contract worth 40million+
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Old 01-26-2010, 07:37 AM   #21
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When you can't make a counter argument stoop to gay insults, works everytime
Come on mate, arguing with you about how many million Floyd turned down or how many opponents ducked him is not only dull and pointless, but it's credibility-suicide. You are a notorious Floydette who will still argue yourself blind that it's not Floyd's fault when he shits out of facing Mosley for some more BS reasons.

The epitomy of pointlessness.
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Come on mate, arguing with you about how many million Floyd turned down or how many opponents ducked him is not only dull and pointless, but it's credibility-suicide. You are a notorious Floydette who will still argue yourself blind that it's not Floyd's fault when he shits out of facing Mosley for some more BS reasons.

The epitomy of pointlessness.
Mosley turned the Floyd fight down twice in 2000 and 2006, Schaefer and Ellerbe say the fight is going to happen, a hack with a mysterious source says otherwise....we'll see, Mayweather should fight Mosley. What will you say then 'Mosley was old', Mayweather cant win with you, because you're a notorious Floyd Hater.

All that aside focus on his time at 130-135 and see for yourself its pretty spotless
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Mosley turned the Floyd fight down twice in 2000 and 2006, Schaefer and Ellerbe say the fight is going to happen, a hack with a mysterious source says otherwise....we'll see, Mayweather should fight Mosley. What will you say then 'Mosley was old', Mayweather cant win with you, because you're a notorious Floyd Hater.

All that aside focus on his time at 130-135 and see for yourself its pretty spotless
Spotless?!

Castillo beat him in the first fight, and his comp at 135 outwith JLC was ****ing shit.
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Spotless?!

Castillo beat him in the first fight, and his comp at 135 outwith JLC was ****ing shit.
He only had 4 fights at LW though and 2 were against the best man out there. If Floyd is such a *****, why rematch Castillo, why not avoid the tough rematch after a controversal fight like Delahoya Or Pacquaio? Ndou was pretty well thought of at the time too, he was unbeaten top10 contender at 130 and on a very good run, Sosa was prety much a gimme but he was 35-2-2 on paper.

The first Castillo fight was very close hence the rematch,certainly wasnt a robbery, the scorecards were bad though

Incidently he tried to make a fight with Hatton in 04 as his first fight at 140 but Hatton said he wasnt ready, prior to facing Tyszu Hatton was very much protected.
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I dont believe Phil was unbeaten when Money fought him PP.
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I dont believe Phil was unbeaten when Money fought him PP.
Oops early career loss, missed that 1, is he related to Lovermore
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Old 01-26-2010, 08:11 AM   #27
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"A distant cousin" apparantly..but for every source that says that, there is another saying there is no relation.

If I ever see Lovemore again Ill ask him.
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He only had 4 fights at LW though and 2 were against the best man out there. If Floyd is such a *****, why rematch Castillo, why not avoid the tough rematch after a controversal fight like Delahoya Or Pacquaio? Ndou was pretty well thought of at the time too, he was unbeaten top10 contender at 130 and on a very good run, Sosa was prety much a gimme but he was 35-2-2 on paper.

The first Castillo fight was very close hence the rematch,certainly wasnt a robbery, the scorecards were bad though

Incidently he tried to make a fight with Hatton in 04 as his first fight at 140 but Hatton said he wasnt ready, prior to facing Tyszu Hatton was very much protected.
All well and good. But none of this changes that Floyd lost the 1st Castillo fight and the rest of his lw comp was rotten. Thus, your comment that PBF was 'spotless' at 135 is, as usual, the comment of a man in love.
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DON't think the NDous arerelated they fought recently
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All well and good. But none of this changes that Floyd lost the 1st Castillo fight and the rest of his lw comp was rotten. Thus, your comment that PBF was 'spotless' at 135 is, as usual, the comment of a man in love.
Spotless competition wise from 130-135 is what I was implying, which was the discussion. Would have been good to see a Stevie J fight. Floyd does only go after fights if the reward is high, but he'll go after anyone if there is that reward.

I wont argue about the first Castillo fight, but I'll leave with Castillo's own words. he said he needed to start earlier in the rematch and not let Floyd build up a lead like in the first fight, where Floyd won 4-5 of the first 5

If you want Floyd to be completely about building legacy and not looking at it as a business, which it is, he probably should have gone after WBA Titlist Harris and defended against his mandatory in Witter. He said he didnt know who Harris was and vivian didnt really have much fame

But then again what about the top names Pacquaio didnt face at 130 like Guzman, Barrios and Soto? Team Pacquaio even wanted Soto after he lost to Guzman and Roach is on record as saying its a tough stylistic match up, Most fighters will only take on top names if they give them extra money
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