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Old 10-03-2007, 03:59 PM   #31
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with the exception of DD how many americans on esb watch a lot of european boxing to know one way or the other ?

hit on the point i dnt get to watch a bunch of euro's
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:00 PM   #32
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i know old time posters like diamonddave and marting read the euro section but they are few and far between.

a large part of it i beleive is ignorant is bliss.

heavys like boystov/chagaev/povetkin have stay in the pocket styles with power who i guarantee if more americans watched they would like and follow.

they are good pressure/box fighters with good abilty and power and better than any american prospects/title holder at the moment to watch.

you have haye/huck 2 power punching aggressive fighters at cruiserweight who are good to watch.

woods been a revalation for the last few years.

power punchers like froch/active like bute/ etc etc .

abraham is a good box/puncher to watch

dzindurek probably the best of the lot at 154 given the chance

etc etc down to feather.

for every stand up textbook boxer there is a puncher/pressure fighter champ or top 5.

if you do not like east european and european boxing in general makes me wonder why you joined the biggest east european orientated boxing forum on the net EASTsideboxing, albeit therer is now a lot more americans here than there used to be in the beginning of eastside.
I like Euro boxing. I'm just trolling for fun.
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:27 PM   #33
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:36 PM   #34
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A plastic paddy laughing at a smart arse yank........... ....Thats funny...........What are you ice.......American or Irish , or one of them mixed up pricks who think their irish but in fact actually only know someone who drank a guiness once....... .............. Im part Irish but consider myself welsh...........If need any help understanding that quote in your avatar panel , let me know & I'll translate it for you........slan leat or da boch...........from a real celt..
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:53 PM   #35
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A plastic paddy laughing at a smart arse yank........... ....Thats funny...........What are you ice.......American or Irish , or one of them mixed up pricks who think their irish but in fact actually only know someone who drank a guiness once....... .............. Im part Irish but consider myself welsh...........If need any help understanding that quote in your avatar panel , let me know & I'll translate it for you........slan leat or da boch...........from a real celt..
First of all Guiness taste Horrible i would rather drink motor oil...second of all i could care less what you think of me or america Eurosnob...
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:05 PM   #36
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I will admit Euros are normally boring to watch fight for the most part, I think thats part of the reason the heavywieght division has suffered so much in the last 5 years. Most Euro heavywieghts rather back out of fights then step in the ring and take of business, I have lost alot of respect for fighters like Vitali and Maskaev who do what ever they can not to fight certain fighters. As Larry Merchant once said in a HBO telecast, "Joe Louis where our you I cant take much more of these Heavywieghts".
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:27 PM   #37
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I will admit Euros are normally boring to watch fight for the most part, I think thats part of the reason the heavywieght division has suffered so much in the last 5 years. Most Euro heavywieghts rather back out of fights then step in the ring and take of business, I have lost alot of respect for fighters like Vitali and Maskaev who do what ever they can not to fight certain fighters. As Larry Merchant once said in a HBO telecast, "Joe Louis where our you I cant take much more of these Heavywieghts".



I will admit americans are normally boring to watch fight for the most part, I think thats part of the reason the heavywieght division has suffered so much in the last 5 years. Most american heavywieghts rather go to macdonald`s then step in the ring and take of business, I have lost alot of respect for fighters like toney and rahman who do what ever they can not to avoid a fast food outlet . As Larry Merchant once said in a HBO telecast, "Joe Louis where our you I cant take much more of these Heavywieghts".[/quote]


if it was not for oversea`s fighters , it would be holyfield v ruiz 14 in a few weeks time.
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:29 PM   #38
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I will admit Euros are normally boring to watch fight for the most part, I think thats part of the reason the heavywieght division has suffered so much in the last 5 years. Most Euro heavywieghts rather back out of fights then step in the ring and take of business, I have lost alot of respect for fighters like Vitali and Maskaev who do what ever they can not to fight certain fighters. As Larry Merchant once said in a HBO telecast, "Joe Louis where our you I cant take much more of these Heavywieghts".
If eastern/Euro-heavies are that boring, then bring up some americans who can beat them.

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Old 10-03-2007, 05:34 PM   #39
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First of all Guiness taste Horrible i would rather drink motor oil...second of all i could care less what you think of me or america Eurosnob...
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This thread is rather pointless, though.

There are exciting American/Mexican fighters, Tyson, Chavez, etc, and there are boring ones (Anyone made it to the end of Byrd/Williamson?).
For European figthers it's all the same. Lewis/Vitali was a great, exciting fight, as was Liakhovic/Brewster, but for instance Valuev fights are rather boring. It all evens out.

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Old 10-03-2007, 05:43 PM   #40
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I will admit americans are normally boring to watch fight for the most part, I think thats part of the reason the heavywieght division has suffered so much in the last 5 years. Most american heavywieghts rather go to macdonald`s then step in the ring and take of business, I have lost alot of respect for fighters like toney and rahman who do what ever they can not to avoid a fast food outlet . As Larry Merchant once said in a HBO telecast, "Joe Louis where our you I cant take much more of these Heavywieghts".

if it was not for oversea`s fighters , it would be holyfield v ruiz 14 in a few weeks time.[/quote] Well Lamon Brewster was very exciting when he was champ from April 04 to April 06, Bryd was very exciting when he fought both Mccline and Golota. My proof is that the Heavywieght division is all 4 title holders are Euro Iggy,Wlad,Maskaev, and Chageav. The only active fighter in the heavywieght division that attracts PPV fights is a 44 year old Holyfield, I do blame the US fighters for not bringing up better fighters, but it doesnt help when 2 of the 4 champs back out of fights that would help the heavywieght division gain a little popularity not to mention that Vitali Bitchko who has backed out countless amount of times instead of getting in the ring and fighting.
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:55 PM   #41
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A plastic paddy laughing at a smart arse yank...........
You're a veritable dictionary of English slang.

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slan leat or da boch...........from a real celt..
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Old 10-03-2007, 05:57 PM   #42
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First of all Guiness taste Horrible i would rather drink motor oil...second of all i could care less what you think of me or america Eurosnob...
It was aimed at iceman retard..........
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:32 AM   #43
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Well Lamon Brewster was very exciting when he was champ from April 04 to April 06, Bryd was very exciting when he fought both Mccline and Golota. My proof is that the Heavywieght division is all 4 title holders are Euro Iggy,Wlad,Maskaev, and Chageav. The only active fighter in the heavywieght division that attracts PPV fights is a 44 year old Holyfield, I do blame the US fighters for not bringing up better fighters, but it doesnt help when 2 of the 4 champs back out of fights that would help the heavywieght division gain a little popularity not to mention that Vitali Bitchko who has backed out countless amount of times instead of getting in the ring and fighting.



i have no idea of what tv you can get or if you are a boxing dealer and buy dvds to watch fights overseas .

but i thought brewster v krasniqi was a very good fight.

i thought chagaev v valuev was a good fight

maskaev v sam was a good fight

PPV numbers in america is an an american problem, how is that a reflection on european boxers ??

for instance all the above fights went out on free to air tv in europe and were watched by millions and millions .

american tv and audience are very insular must be the american tv execs view which is why they never showed these fights stateside.

the heavyweight division has never been so popular, its just from an american perspective at this moment it might not be , but there again america only makes up 2% of the population.

take a step outside america and you will see if having european champs is harming boxing.

IMO it is very good for the sport.
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:34 AM   #44
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The people who say that Euros don't give exciting fights havent seen Briggs vs Admaek I and II.
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:40 AM   #45
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Here the top USA and well known Americans getting around today

Hopkins
Taylor
Pavlik
PBF
Spinks
Dawson
Winky
Mosley
Jones
Tarver
Lacy
etc

Now you name the international guys Euro,Aussie,Asian South American of late that have given you to many great fights to name.
If i made of list of all the exciting Internationals the list would be too big.
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