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Old 10-03-2007, 08:46 PM   #16
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British fighters are generally a joke, yes.

Hatton and Calzaghe are the exceptions.

Potentially Haye too.
Couldn't agree with you more Wow just when i though i had you figured out.
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:49 PM   #17
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British fighters are generally a joke, yes.

Hatton and Calzaghe are the exceptions.

Potentially Haye too.

The P4P list was solid, but I'd put Guzman in the place of Hopkins, Calzaghe higher up and Kessler in for Wright.
I agree Haye will be a top 20 fighter if he wins this fight coming up, maybe top 15. Kessler makes a good case, he is in my top 12. Guzman is top 20 but not top 10, a win over Barrios does not make you that high yet. His work at 122 was a while ago.
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:55 PM   #18
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I agree Haye will be a top 20 fighter if he wins this fight coming up, maybe top 15. Kessler makes a good case, he is in my top 12. Guzman is top 20 but not top 10, a win over Barrios does not make you that high yet. His work at 122 was a while ago.
My Guzman fascination is based on my speculation on how talented he is.
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Old 10-03-2007, 08:57 PM   #19
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My Guzman fascination is based on my speculation on how talented he is.
He is quite talented but so is Ivan Calderon. In fact I would say Calderon is more so and more accomplished.
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:47 PM   #20
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Mayweather's beaten fighters thats already been beat by B-class boxers...just a thought. Why do fans have to hate the guy their favourite boxer is facing...I don't.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:04 PM   #21
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I'm a Hatton fan but he's going to get sliced and diced by PBF. Just can't see anyway of Hatton beating him.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:09 PM   #22
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:23 PM   #23
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These damn Brits are really getting ****y, talking about how Hopkins has no change against Calzaghe, Kessler has no change against Calzaghe(even though I think Calzaghe will beat him, but the fight will be good and Kessler is a legit fighter). No one from 160-175 beats Joe. They want Calzaghes Junk in their mouth. Floyd can't deal will Hatton's pressure. Way too much American bias in the p4p rankings. Well here is a p4p list.

1. Floyd Mayweather (U.S.A.)
2. Manny Pacquaio (Phillipines)
3. Bernard Hopkins (U.S.A.) Yes handjob he deserves a spot there with wins over Winky, the first person to do it in nearly 10 years, Tarver, the consesus best Lt. Heavy in the world, Who the **** is Erdei again?
A middleweight reign that was at least as impressive as Joes at 168.
4. Joe Calzaghe (U.K.) Great fighter, the best the British have seen since LL retired.
5. Miguel Cotto (PR) I know a US "Territory" but come on now, would a p4p fighter who came from Hong Kong 15 years ago be considered "British"
6. Ricky Hatton (U.K.) Wins over Zoo, and Castillo even those past prime he deserves to be here. That win over Kostya was partically impressive because Zoo just toasted Sharmba Mitchell in 3 the fight before. Maussa was a pretty good win as well. Still he is gonna get beat down by Floyd, and I like Hatton.
7. Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico) just came off a very good win against a fading but still possibly an elite Barrera, was robbed against John.
8. Winky Wright (U.S.A.) Wins over Mosley twice, Tito, Quartey, and Soliman are quite impressive. Lost a close but clear decision to a boxing master and he was 10 lbs heaver than he should have been.
9/10. Izzy Vasquez/Rafa Marquez (Mexico) both great champions who have split their first 2 meetings. So I can't decide which should be higher.


3 Fighters from US
3 From Mexico
2 From Snaggletooth Kingdom
1 From Phillipines
1 From Puerto Rico

American Bias? Eat a ****, you have 2 great champions who deserve to be high in the p4p top 10 but we have legends fighting in the US, so show more respect.

I can't wait for December 8th
Wow, great post. Yes PBF will beat Hatton..and? Your list shows that the UK has two of the top ranked fighters by your own system so what the **** are you ranting about? The USA has about 5 times the number of people that the UK does, that is around 240 million more people. Well done on having two more of the elite fighters.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:33 PM   #24
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Ricky's wrestling style isn't going to help him when he gets into the ring with PBF. Floyd's gonna make him look silly.
Very profound!
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:40 PM   #25
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Wow, great post. Yes PBF will beat Hatton..and? Your list shows that the UK has two of the top ranked fighters by your own system so what the **** are you ranting about? The USA has about 5 times the number of people that the UK does, that is around 240 million more people. Well done on having two more of the elite fighters.
its just his response to the board getting flooded by statements like "yanks over rate him for being a yank". "he's (insert nationality) thats why yanks underate him" etc.. his list shows that there's a proportional number of nationalities in it.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:02 PM   #26
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Hopkins is still in the list though.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:21 AM   #27
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Wow, great post. Yes PBF will beat Hatton..and? Your list shows that the UK has two of the top ranked fighters by your own system so what the **** are you ranting about? The USA has about 5 times the number of people that the UK does, that is around 240 million more people. Well done on having two more of the elite fighters.
My list shows that where the **** is the American Bias in the p4p list that Brits ***** and whine about?
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:33 AM   #28
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3 Fighters from US
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2 From Snaggletooth Kingdom
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:15 AM   #29
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Default Re: Floyd will destroy Hatton, and the poms will be put in there place.

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British fighters are generally a joke, yes.

Hatton and Calzaghe are the exceptions.

Potentially Haye too.

The P4P list was solid, but I'd put Guzman in the place of Hopkins, Calzaghe higher up and Kessler in for Wright.
we've produced our fair share of quality fighters down they years.

oh and, Benn TKO12 Calzaghe
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:41 AM   #30
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These damn Brits are really getting ****y, talking about how Hopkins has no change against Calzaghe, Kessler has no change against Calzaghe(even though I think Calzaghe will beat him, but the fight will be good and Kessler is a legit fighter). No one from 160-175 beats Joe. They want Calzaghes Junk in their mouth. Floyd can't deal will Hatton's pressure. Way too much American bias in the p4p rankings. Well here is a p4p list.

1. Floyd Mayweather (U.S.A.)
2. Manny Pacquaio (Phillipines)
3. Bernard Hopkins (U.S.A.) Yes handjob he deserves a spot there with wins over Winky, the first person to do it in nearly 10 years, Tarver, the consesus best Lt. Heavy in the world, Who the **** is Erdei again?
A middleweight reign that was at least as impressive as Joes at 168.
4. Joe Calzaghe (U.K.) Great fighter, the best the British have seen since LL retired.
5. Miguel Cotto (PR) I know a US "Territory" but come on now, would a p4p fighter who came from Hong Kong 15 years ago be considered "British"
6. Ricky Hatton (U.K.) Wins over Zoo, and Castillo even those past prime he deserves to be here. That win over Kostya was partically impressive because Zoo just toasted Sharmba Mitchell in 3 the fight before. Maussa was a pretty good win as well. Still he is gonna get beat down by Floyd, and I like Hatton.
7. Juan Manuel Marquez (Mexico) just came off a very good win against a fading but still possibly an elite Barrera, was robbed against John.
8. Winky Wright (U.S.A.) Wins over Mosley twice, Tito, Quartey, and Soliman are quite impressive. Lost a close but clear decision to a boxing master and he was 10 lbs heaver than he should have been.
9/10. Izzy Vasquez/Rafa Marquez (Mexico) both great champions who have split their first 2 meetings. So I can't decide which should be higher.


3 Fighters from US
3 From Mexico
2 From Snaggletooth Kingdom
1 From Phillipines
1 From Puerto Rico

American Bias? Eat a ****, you have 2 great champions who deserve to be high in the p4p top 10 but we have legends fighting in the US, so show more respect.

I can't wait for December 8th
another bitter little tszyu fan are we?
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