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View Poll Results: Rocky or Floyd
Marciano, by KO/TKO 34 79.07%
Marciano, on pts 0 0%
Patterson, by KO/TKO 6 13.95%
Patterson, on pts 3 6.98%
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Old 10-02-2007, 06:32 AM   #1
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Default Rocky Marciano -vs- Floyd Patterson

Who takes it, prime for prime? Let's say 12 rounds.
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Old 10-02-2007, 06:34 AM   #2
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The rock smokes the elusive patterson early, with his superior punching power and chin.
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Old 10-02-2007, 06:47 AM   #3
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I think you have to imagine Rocky cracking Patterson a beauty at some point and getting him out of there whilst behind on the cards.

Marciano probably punhed in the same class as the other big-hitting heavyweights and I don't see Patterson surrviving any of those guys, if i'm honest.
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:27 AM   #4
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Rocky by brutal kayo. one of those leonard-green or Jackson-graham types
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:56 AM   #5
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Patterson, by close UD.





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Old 10-02-2007, 07:56 AM   #6
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Marciano would not need to find Patterson. He be right there brawling with Marciano.
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:01 AM   #7
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Patterson, by close UD.
OK. Let's hear a little bit about why?





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Patterson is a curious fighter and he's also a fighter that seems to have varying degrees of respect on the boards (like Shcmeling). I disagree but I don't think it's a ludicrous opinion.

Put it this way, on fight night there would be plenty of "experts" picking Patterson, esepcially pre-Liston.
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:39 AM   #8
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Marciano by TKO
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:08 AM   #9
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Patterson was very fast in his prime, had great handspeed, footwork and very good skills to go with that speed as well as guile and agility.

I don't think Marciano would intimidate Patterson like Liston did and (unlike Liston) he'd actually be the smaller guy here. Patterson was hard to hit and fought very well out of his crouch like technique, he could launch quick n' snappy combination flurries from a wide variety of angles. If he choose to brawl against Rocky he'd be making a mistake but I think he could get to the inside, bang at Rocky's body and head and then out of range again without being on the receiving end of too much acumulative punishment.

In addition having a top-notch jab (and skills) such as Liston's would be a great/useful tool to have, in order to offset/negate Patterson's speed, rythmn and put him on the backfoot and off balance. Marciano's jab* isn't on that level and I think he'd find it a nightmare to catch up with Floyd, stylistically speaking,

I wouldn't be laying any money down (a puncher with Rocky's power can end a fight with a few well placed shots at any time) and I understand I'll take a lot of flack for this, but I think Patterson might just be able to squeak a narrow victory on the cards over a 12 rounder.



*Not to mention that he barely ever threw that shot.

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I could see this happen, too. Out of a three fight series i would also expect this to happen one time but i think Marcianos pressure, workrate and power would get Patterson more often than not.
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:02 PM   #11
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I voted for Patterson KO because I thought it was going to say in 1955. If it happened in 1955 against a faded Marciano I think Patterson would KO the Rock, especially if it was the much slower Rocky with the bad back that showed up against Moore.

Patterson would start quickly beatign Marciano to the punch and he had better power than Walcott/Moore. I see him knocking Marciano down early and maybe finnishing him off after perhaps tasting the canvas himself.

Against a prime marciano I see the fight going the same way with the exception that Marciano would land come threw to stop Patterson.

If it was a 3 fight series I see Patterson winning 1 and Marciano 2. Each fighter could flaw the other. Patterson would beat Rocky to the punch, Maricano had the much greater durability and would be the stronger fighter and get his Suzie Q off on Patterson probably getting off the canvas to score a KO in a thriller.
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OK. Let's hear a little bit about why?







Patterson is a curious fighter and he's also a fighter that seems to have varying degrees of respect on the boards (like Shcmeling). I disagree but I don't think it's a ludicrous opinion.

Put it this way, on fight night there would be plenty of "experts" picking Patterson, esepcially pre-Liston.
A lot of experts picked Patterson over Liston in 1962, actually. Liston was a 10-7 favorite for this fight, according to the 1976 Ring Record Book. Interesting, he was actually a slightly larger favorite, at 7-5, for the 1965 rematch with Ali, believe it or not.

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Old 10-02-2007, 02:22 PM   #13
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...i have always dismissed patterson in my mind until some recent threads prompted me to find out more about the man......olympic gold medalist and golden gloves champ at miidelweight.....no1 pro lightheavyweight contender and then youngest ever heavyweight champion at only 21.....looking at his record, i see he defeated some pretty tough guys, chuvalo, bonavena, a draw and a decsision loss to gerry quarry, a fighter many on here rate highly, a decision loss to jimmy ellis over 15 rounds in the h/w tournament of the time, after breaking ellis nose in the first round...and a quick win over henry cooper...all after he was blown out by liston..twice....even his amature rcord suggests he could bang a bit, 37 kos out of 40 wins.....the guy had a great ko record in the pros, and for a fighter who is generally perceived as light in the whiskers department, was only kod by huge punchers, sonny liston and ingemar johansen.....but the johansen loss was avenged..twice..by ko to floyd....the guy fought and beat bonavena in 72 and fought ali again in the seventies......what a long, and distinguished career.....the black and white on paper evidence suggest here we have a fast moving, hard hitting , physically small heavyweight with tremendous power for his size and, against popular opinion, a decent chin and good defense......and, if some of the fights iv actually seen of him in archive footage, tremendous amounts of pride and heart, particularly, perversely, in his humiliating systematicall beating at the hands of ali......and his insistence, against the wishes of cus d'amato, to fight liston...twice.....an underrated and unfairly overlooked h/w champ then????...the fact that floys seems to have been a tremendously liked and popular character out of the ring also speaks volumes...i think in this fight, floyd might well be a nightmare for marciano...who did the rock fight with pattersons speed, elusivness and movement.....i think floyd could win quite a wide u/d...unless marciano catches him clean......its a russian roulette type fight for floyd with one bullet in the chamber...the odds are in his favour, but one slip and his head comes off....
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:24 PM   #14
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come on, Patterson in his prime, the 50's is not going to be dancing around. He be charging head first. Marciano would not need to catch up with Patterson. Marciano is going to end up doing the same thing Ingo and Liston did. And that is ko Patterson.
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Old 10-02-2007, 02:31 PM   #15
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Walcott was more Elusivness than Patterson.
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