Why are some saying that Jermain didn't get up because Smoger...

[Carlos Primera]

taylor was out on his feet. i dont think he was aware that he was on the canvas, judging by the blank look on his face. he could'nt have gotten up

[JETSKI]

Originally Posted by Antwuan Maxx

That's bullshit. Taylor was too out of it to do anything. His eyes were glassy and he wasn't full coherent until a minute or so after the stoppage.

And when he was coherent again, I believe he asked if he was KO'ed while he was still taking a seat. His people nodded in agreement.

[Antwuan Maxx]

Originally Posted by JETSKI

And when he was coherent again, I believe he asked if he was KO'ed while he was still taking a seat. His people nodded in agreement.

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[rodney]

Smogler or not.
Taylor was done like dinner.
Absolutely no fight left.

[trac209]

Originally Posted by MexicanJew

When you have to ask whether you were knocked out, you were Knocked the fuck OUT.

Exactly he was out and a 10 count would have done nothing to help

[El Bombasto]

Originally Posted by boxingabc123

because they're upset the hype job got knocked out

i don't think taylor's a hype job, but there are a lot of hatters out there who don't want to give pavlik any credit.

[PJD3]

Originally Posted by Relentless

taylor shoulda low blow pavlik to get out of there.

That's how tito and cotto get out of trouble
dirty is as dirty does

[Longhhorn71]

If Taylor "had" gotten up, a 6'-3" Pavlik would have tried to pile drive a
right hand out the back of JT's head.

JT was helpless, and it could have turned into a very ugly night.

[carlito]

Originally Posted by MexicanJew

When you have to ask whether you were knocked out, you were Knocked the fuck OUT.

I think what Bernard Hopkin said rings so true about this fight and Jermaine in particular! He wasnt just ktfo ..he quit

[compukiller]

Taylor had absolutely nothing left when he was stopped. Nothing.

[Decker]

Originally Posted by PJ

was in his way?

Psychosis? Mental retardation? Lost thier Mickey D's money? Who knows?

[psychopath]

Originally Posted by PJ

was in his way?

Who are those some?

Give it a rest man . . . Taylor was knocked out cold period!

[Zakman]

Originally Posted by boxingabc123

because they're upset the hype job got knocked out

Bingo. They're scrambling for excuses. This is the most ridiculous one I've heard in a long time.

[divac]

Did Smoger actually stop the fight before Taylor hit the canvas?

I think Smoger might have, and thus the reason why Smoger was right almost on top of Taylor, possibly inhibiting Taylor to make a move to get up if he could.

If Smoger stopped the fight before Taylor hit the canvas, I'm fine with the job that he did as a referee.
......but if he decided to stop the fight after Taylor had gone to the canvas......Taylor is already on the canvas, why not give him a count to see if he responds to it?

It would'nt have mattered in this fight imo, but in some circumstances a fighter looks out of it on the way down, and seconds later is clear enough to get up and even make a fight out of it.

Smoger's knee lay right on front of Taylor's face, and Smoger was'nt even looking at Taylor's face to determine his condition as he was waving the fight off.....thats why I'm of the inclination that Smoger had made a determination to stop it before Taylor had hit the canvas.

[PH|LLA]

noone has used that excuse.