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Old 10-04-2007, 09:28 AM   #31
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Default Re: Why are some saying that Jermain didn't get up because Smoger...

Taylor was stunned by the uppercut and he would have been badly beaten had he continued. Smogger may have been in his way, in his way of being f----d up!
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:30 AM   #32
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a couple things:

1. taylor will never be considered a smart fighter. one of the reasons i was backing kelly. he simply refuses to listen to anyone and instead rely on his great atheletic abilities.

2. when you get THAT hurt, thinking logically in a short span of time while your brain is sparked is easier said than done. jermain was in no mental condition to think of the sensible thing to do. he was in pure confusion, and instinctively covered up which is only natural in that situation. plus it was the first time jermain has ever been that hurt. if he had been ko'ed previously or at least hurt pretty bad and gotten off the deck to win, then yes, he might have done the logical thing. but since he's never experienced that kind of hurt before, he simply was clueless.

3. to prove how damaging those shots were, taylor was semi concious when his head was resting against the rope. smoger like any ref with experience saw zero movement. when a fight is that relaxed and saggy, it's a good sign he isn't going to get up for at least a few minutes. and as shown afterwards, taylor asked if he had been ko'ed.

i dont blame taylor for not taking a knee, nor for smoger calling off the count. that is about as decisiive as you can get in a win, short of the "stiff as a board" collapse forward/backward.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:39 AM   #33
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I don't know about any of that. But in my opinion Jermaine should have taken a knee after he took that first big shot, then he could have gathered himself and got out of the round. Instead several follow up uppercuts did him in, Pavlik had him dead to rights in the corner.
I was saying the exact same thing. He could of took a knee and possibly made it out of the round. Probably wouldnt have changed the outcome though. Kelly did not look like he was getting tired.
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:16 AM   #34
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noone has used that excuse.
I agree. In all the coverage I have seen and read of that fight I have heard no one make that excuse and I haven't even heard it on a message board until this thread.
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:16 AM   #35
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Obviously the thread starter is the one making this up.

Go on you-tube and watch the post fight press conference--they ask jermain point blank if he thinks the fight should have been stopped and he said" The ref did a great job--he did what he was supposed to do"

Theres no complaining in that sentence nor is there any way he is saying it shouldnt have been stopped---jermain himself is glad the fight got stoppped so this thread is just your way of trying to make an excuse when even your fighter isnt.
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:29 AM   #36
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Obviously the thread starter is the one making this up.

Go on you-tube and watch the post fight press conference--they ask jermain point blank if he thinks the fight should have been stopped and he said" The ref did a great job--he did what he was supposed to do"

Theres no complaining in that sentence nor is there any way he is saying it shouldnt have been stopped---jermain himself is glad the fight got stoppped so this thread is just your way of trying to make an excuse when even your fighter isnt.
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:46 AM   #37
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bitch stop crying
Go make another stupid ass prediction

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Old 10-04-2007, 01:16 PM   #38
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Go make another stupid ass prediction
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No its true. Rachman was blocked in the same way when Maskaev put him to sleep in the corner on Makaev-Rachman 2.
laughing at your own jokes again?

it wasn't even a funny one

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