Anthony Mundine v Kelly Pavlik. Who Wins? - Page 4

MSTR · 10-04-2007, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by hazetheman

Based on what? Taylor is a massive middleweight and would dwarf mundine if they both were in the ring. Who has Mundine ever knocked out who wasn't a complete bum?

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MSTR · 10-04-2007, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dekkers

Hits harder than TAYLOR not Pavlik, I was comparing him to Taylor, not that Pavliks power is especially monstrous (he's no G-man, unlike 20% of the retards in the general forum who think he hits harder), I suspect Andy Lee (comp is limited, but he shows very solid technique, disposes of that sort of comp in much the same fashion as Pavlik did, he's a little more balanced and upright than Pavlik) and Abraham both hit harder at middleweight.

Good post, the only thing i don't agree with is that AA does not have the power that Pavlik does.

Dekkers · 10-04-2007, 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MSTR

Good post, the only thing i don't agree with is that AA does not have the power that Pavlik does.

Pavlik has the bigger right hand, AA the bigger left hook, personally though I think there a bit more in AAs' hook than Pavs' right hand.

Dekkers · 10-04-2007, 02:36 AM

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BoppaZoo · 10-04-2007, 02:47 AM

You know what Danny Green has more Power than this guy Pavlik that the Yanks think is there new savour.

Anyone like ive said with skills and not willing to go toe to toe with Pavlik will beat him.

Mundine would win this aslong as he used his jab like against Danny and stayed to the outside.
Pavliks defense is non existent about 2.30 min of every round ive seen him.
MUNDINE UD.

Read and weap Pavlik fans.

MSTR · 10-04-2007, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BoppaZoo

You know what Danny Green has more Power than this guy Pavlik that the Yanks think is there new savour.

Anyone like ive said with skills and not willing to go toe to toe with Pavlik will beat him.

Mundine would win this aslong as he used his jab like against Danny and stayed to the outside.
Pavliks defense is non existent about 2.30 min of every round ive seen him.
MUNDINE UD.

Read and weap Pavlik fans.

hahaha well said Bop Bop!!!

teke · 10-04-2007, 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by kel

But if the Mundine who fought Siaca turns up than it's a Pavlik KO for sure.

That mundine is never gonna appear again.

PorkChopExpress · 10-04-2007, 03:28 AM

I'd pick Pavlik by UD or SD. Mundine would run the entire fight and Pavlik would win on aggression and pressing the fight, if he didn't catch Mundine who didn't do enough for the win.

Pavlik is being overrated at the moment too. Beating an overrated Taylor on the ass end of his carreer isn't reason enough to P4P the guy yet. Pavliks offence is powerful, but it's too slow and telegraphed giving Mundine a good chance to avoid him all night. If Mundine finds a comfortable way inside Pavliks range he may well get a UD himself

BoppaZoo · 10-04-2007, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PorkChopExpress

I'd pick Pavlik by UD or SD. Mundine would run the entire fight and Pavlik would win on aggression and pressing the fight, if he didn't catch Mundine who didn't do enough for the win.

Pavlik is being overrated at the moment too. Beating an overrated Taylor on the ass end of his carreer isn't reason enough to P4P the guy yet. Pavliks offence is powerful, but it's too slow and telegraphed giving Mundine a good chance to avoid him all night. If Mundine finds a comfortable way inside Pavliks range he may well get a UD himself

Well said Pork Chop but like ive said anyone with skills could easily outbox Pavlik.

Mundine could run all night and win still because ho many times have we seen PBF or Spinks take this tactic.

Plus i feel if Pavlik got it in his head to be aggressive against Mundine Choc could just chip away at him like he did to Green.

Mundine has great defense aswell and Pavlik is way to slow to stop getting hit by Mundine super fast jab all night which could frusrtate him and cause him to do something stupid.

I would favour Mundine as i would favour anyone with Slick skills and great defense against Pavlik because like you said to many telegraphed punch's and way to slow. And Pavliks defense is poor at best.

CarltonBlues · 10-04-2007, 04:11 AM

Mundine would whoop him. Pavlik is just bullying middleweights at the moment. His bubble was nearly burst on the weekend with Taylor's speed giving him real problems. Mundine is faster, stronger and way better defensively than Taylor.

boxa01 · 10-04-2007, 04:31 AM

mundine wins on points never hurts pavlik and pavlik doesnt land much on choc chocs skill is far superior pavlik wont be champ for long

PorkChopExpress · 10-04-2007, 05:19 AM

Yeah thats all true Boppa, but at the moment Pavlik has come out and done what it takes to win everytime and Mundine hasn't - thats why i initially would go with the Pavlik win... its not cuz Pavlik is so good, it's because you never know which Mundine is going to turn up to a fight

Super_Fly_Sam · 10-04-2007, 05:54 AM

I'd back choc to beat kelly as long as he comes into the fight in top condition eye wise and not gun shy...

Kelly clearly has the power to take mundine out but i reckon Choc could out box him as long as he keeps his work rate up and pops his jab and throughs combos all night

Super_Fly_Sam · 10-04-2007, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BoppaZoo

Well said Pork Chop but like ive said anyone with skills could easily outbox Pavlik.

Mundine could run all night and win still because ho many times have we seen PBF or Spinks take this tactic.

Plus i feel if Pavlik got it in his head to be aggressive against Mundine Choc could just chip away at him like he did to Green.

Mundine has great defense aswell and Pavlik is way to slow to stop getting hit by Mundine super fast jab all night which could frusrtate him and cause him to do something stupid.

I would favour Mundine as i would favour anyone with Slick skills and great defense against Pavlik because like you said to many telegraphed punch's and way to slow. And Pavliks defense is poor at best.

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If the fight was in Australia he would have no worries about not gettin a decision coz of running as long as he still does some work..

but i doubt that Mundine would have the power to get the fight here if it ever did happen

madpup · 10-04-2007, 09:43 AM

To everyone who is backing Mundine....which world class boxer has Mundine beat for you to be so certain of a win against Pavlik?

10-04-2007, 02:47 AM	#50
BoppaZoo Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 7,794 vCash: 1132	Re: Anthony Mundine v Kelly Pavlik. Who Wins? You know what Danny Green has more Power than this guy Pavlik that the Yanks think is there new savour. Anyone like ive said with skills and not willing to go toe to toe with Pavlik will beat him. Mundine would win this aslong as he used his jab like against Danny and stayed to the outside. Pavliks defense is non existent about 2.30 min of every round ive seen him. MUNDINE UD. Read and weap Pavlik fans.
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10-04-2007, 03:28 AM	#53
PorkChopExpress Champion of the Universe ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,571 vCash: 1000	Re: Anthony Mundine v Kelly Pavlik. Who Wins? I'd pick Pavlik by UD or SD. Mundine would run the entire fight and Pavlik would win on aggression and pressing the fight, if he didn't catch Mundine who didn't do enough for the win. Pavlik is being overrated at the moment too. Beating an overrated Taylor on the ass end of his carreer isn't reason enough to P4P the guy yet. Pavliks offence is powerful, but it's too slow and telegraphed giving Mundine a good chance to avoid him all night. If Mundine finds a comfortable way inside Pavliks range he may well get a UD himself
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10-04-2007, 04:11 AM	#55
CarltonBlues Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 761 vCash: 1000	Re: Anthony Mundine v Kelly Pavlik. Who Wins? Mundine would whoop him. Pavlik is just bullying middleweights at the moment. His bubble was nearly burst on the weekend with Taylor's speed giving him real problems. Mundine is faster, stronger and way better defensively than Taylor.
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10-04-2007, 04:31 AM	#56
boxa01 Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: QLD Posts: 135 vCash: 1000	Re: Anthony Mundine v Kelly Pavlik. Who Wins? mundine wins on points never hurts pavlik and pavlik doesnt land much on choc chocs skill is far superior pavlik wont be champ for long
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10-04-2007, 05:19 AM	#57
PorkChopExpress Champion of the Universe ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Sydney Posts: 1,571 vCash: 1000	Re: Anthony Mundine v Kelly Pavlik. Who Wins? Yeah thats all true Boppa, but at the moment Pavlik has come out and done what it takes to win everytime and Mundine hasn't - thats why i initially would go with the Pavlik win... its not cuz Pavlik is so good, it's because you never know which Mundine is going to turn up to a fight
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10-04-2007, 05:54 AM	#58
Super_Fly_Sam Aus Boxer ESB Addict Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 1,704 vCash: 1057	Re: Anthony Mundine v Kelly Pavlik. Who Wins? I'd back choc to beat kelly as long as he comes into the fight in top condition eye wise and not gun shy... Kelly clearly has the power to take mundine out but i reckon Choc could out box him as long as he keeps his work rate up and pops his jab and throughs combos all night
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10-04-2007, 09:43 AM	#60
madpup Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 538 vCash: 1000	Re: Anthony Mundine v Kelly Pavlik. Who Wins? To everyone who is backing Mundine....which world class boxer has Mundine beat for you to be so certain of a win against Pavlik?
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