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Old 10-04-2007, 09:47 AM   #16
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What do you base that on? Tyson would have a better chance of knocking out in one round, because hes a fast starter. Vitali has to be the most overated heavyweight in the history of heavyweight boxing. His entire career is based on a loss to a retiring Lennox Lewis. Its mind boggling. Hes average at best. The two most important fights to his legacy in his career he lost. Part of being a great fighter is being able to actually finish a fight.
Tyson couldn't beat McBride how the **** is he gonna beat Vitali or anyone for that matter?
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:20 AM   #17
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Tyson couldn't beat McBride how the **** is he gonna beat Vitali or anyone for that matter?
Vitali couldnt even make it to a fight, how in the hell is he going to stand up to Tyson? While I agree Tyson is finished, its more mentally than physically. He is mentally no longer a fighter, whereas the opposite holds true for Vitali. His body cant even make it through a training camp let alone a tough grueling fight.
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Old 10-04-2007, 10:53 AM   #18
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Klitschkos style is poison for Tyson.

Klitschko via UD (9-3)
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:16 AM   #19
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Klitscho is the most dangerous opponent for Tyson. He´s extremely strong, extremely big and has good handspeed for a big man. He´s also very clever and boxes from the outside (as you have to against Tyson). Apart from that: He´s also got one the best chins ever at HW, he´s never been down.

That´s hard to overcome for Tyson. Klitscho would be a much more difficult opponent for a prime Tyson than Lewis, simply because the size difference is same but Klitschko´s chin is so much better than Lewis´.

I forgot to mention the mental aspect: Klitschko comes to fight.

He can in no way be compared to the tomato cans that Tyson fought. Not skillwise, strenghtwise or from a mental point of view. Big fighters were always able to trouble Tyson, even a prime Tyson.

While I feel that nobody of the same size wins against Tyson, the size difference would be too much here.

I think Klitschko takes that.
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:22 AM   #20
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Klitscho is the most dangerous opponent for Tyson. He´s extremely strong, extremely big and has good handspeed for a big man. He´s also very clever and boxes from the outside (as you have to against Tyson). Apart from that: He´s also got one the best chins ever at HW, he´s never been down.

That´s hard to overcome for Tyson. Klitscho would be a much more difficult opponent for a prime Tyson than Lewis, simply because the size difference is same but Klitschko´s chin is so much better than Lewis´.

I forgot to mention the mental aspect: Klitschko comes to fight.

He can in no way be compared to the tomato cans that Tyson fought. Not skillwise, strenghtwise or from a mental point of view. Big fighters were always able to trouble Tyson, even a prime Tyson.

While I feel that nobody of the same size wins against Tyson, the size difference would be too much here.

I think Klitschko takes that.
Hogwash. Tyson in his prime carried everyone into a brawl, where they either held on for dear life and got beat up or got knocked out. The only time Vitali was ever in a brawl, he was taken to pieces by Lewis. A prime Tyson was far faster and punched harder and more frequent than anything Lewis demonstrated in that fight. Vitali would be knocked out within 2 rounds by a prime Tyson.
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:51 AM   #21
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Hogwash. Tyson in his prime carried everyone into a brawl, where they either held on for dear life and got beat up or got knocked out. The only time Vitali was ever in a brawl, he was taken to pieces by Lewis. A prime Tyson was far faster and punched harder and more frequent than anything Lewis demonstrated in that fight. Vitali would be knocked out within 2 rounds by a prime Tyson.
If Quick Tillis could take 3 rounds off Tyson I'm pretty sure the man isn't invincible...
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:56 AM   #22
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Vitali gets chop down in less than 8.

Iron Mike had some of the best upper body movement I have ever seen. Vitali couldn't be a unprepared Lewis on his worst night, no way could he handle Iron Mike.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:03 PM   #23
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I don't see Vitali getting KO'ed, I see a Tyson UD though.
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Old 10-04-2007, 12:14 PM   #24
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I tought we were talking prime vs prime.....Tyson easy.
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Tyson UD
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:35 PM   #26
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remember that tyson lost to douglas, so it's as well possible that vitali has a chance. vitali would fight from the outside which would have given tyson problems, and he couldn't knock out mitch green either. anything is possible, tyson by ko, or vitali by ud.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:26 PM   #27
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Hogwash. Tyson in his prime carried everyone into a brawl, where they either held on for dear life and got beat up or got knocked out. The only time Vitali was ever in a brawl, he was taken to pieces by Lewis. A prime Tyson was far faster and punched harder and more frequent than anything Lewis demonstrated in that fight. Vitali would be knocked out within 2 rounds by a prime Tyson.
=> That´s not true. You can´t compare Tyson to Lewis. Lewis was Klitschko´s only opponent who had great skills and SIZE (!!!).

Therefore Vitali couldn´t stick to his usual gameplan (using his size-advantage in a clever way) and was troubled a few times.

Tyson is like a midget to Vitali. Have you ever seen Tyson and Vitali together? The size difference is ridiculous. If you want to see who this fight would unfold look at Tyson- D. Williams and Vitali- D. Williams.

Altough far past his prime, Tyson-Williams was a brawl and Vitali-Williams was an execution with no inside or mid-range boxing at all.
At this stage of his career VK-Tyson would have looked the same.

Beating a prime Tyson would have been much much harder for VK but I feel the Tyson had to respect VK´s power (KO percentage king
!) whenever he got close. Similar to Williams in his fight againt VK.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:32 PM   #28
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I would give the edge to Tyson, but if Vitali, with his own skills, had just the smarts of Ali...he'd have agood chance
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I would give the edge to Tyson, but if Vitali, with his own skills, had just the smarts of Ali...he'd have agood chance
In the Lewis fight he was very easy to hit, if thats thats Vitali in his prime Tyson would land every punch he threw. Tyson was better in nearly every aspect of boxing when Tyson was in his prime, I personally see Vitali eating some big punches early and somewhere in the middle rounds he will get hit with a heavy combo that forces the ref to stop the fight 7th round TKO Tyson.
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:03 PM   #30
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Due to his size Lewis had no problem to close the distance. Tyson is so much smaller...
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