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Old 10-03-2007, 09:46 PM   #1
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Default History's most disgraceful fighter

I will leave it up to your own standards to decide what qualifies as "disgraceful" behavior.

Who is the most disgraceful fighter ever?
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Old 10-03-2007, 09:48 PM   #2
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Easy, Tyson. I don't think I need to explain.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:03 PM   #3
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Tyson pretty much. I cant think of any one that has falling so low from the hight he reach. Tyson forever disgrace himself the movement he started taking chucks out of Holyfiled's ear.
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:09 PM   #4
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Default Re: History's most disgraceful fighter

James Butler.
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:21 PM   #5
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Luis Resto
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:37 PM   #6
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James Butler immediately came to mind
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:33 AM   #7
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I would go with Resto dishonourable mentions to Butler and Bobby Frankham.
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:35 AM   #8
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Tony Ayala is a piece of shit outside the ring at least.Same goes for Carlos Monzon.

Inside the ring Tyson,Mysterious Billy Smith,and James Butler disgraced themselves.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:55 AM   #9
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Default Re: History's most disgraceful fighter

Luis Resto.

There have been worse people in boxing, but he comitted his faults within the ring.
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Old 10-04-2007, 05:03 AM   #10
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Muhammad Ali, for being an American world heavyweight champion who refused to serve his country in the war against communism.

In terms of fouling in the ring, Andrew Golota and Mike Tyson are good candidates.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:00 AM   #11
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Easy, Tyson. I don't think I need to explain.
Why though?
If you mean the ear biting thing, why so hard upon him? I don't have the film to prove it, but i'm happy to asure you that Zivic and Greb are examples of fighters far far dirtier than Tyson - yet they seem to get a pass because it happened in Ye Olden times, whereas Tyson is harrassed for it.

Tyson was a looney, but most disgraceful fighter ever? I feel you need to explain.

I guess I'll pick Monzon for his conduct outside of the ring.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:05 AM   #12
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Why though?
If you mean the ear biting thing, why so hard upon him? I don't have the film to prove it, but i'm happy to asure you that Zivic and Greb are examples of fighters far far dirtier than Tyson - yet they seem to get a pass because it happened in Ye Olden times, whereas Tyson is harrassed for it.

Tyson was a looney, but most disgraceful fighter ever? I feel you need to explain.

I guess I'll pick Monzon for his conduct outside of the ring.
Golota also made a blatant bite in a pre-Bowe fight. He twice low blowed Bowe. Quit against Tyson......

What about fighters who used loaded gloves? Surely thats worse

If you want to go into outside the ring activity there are many disgraceful fighters - ie Ibeauchi
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:08 AM   #13
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Muhammad Ali, for being an American world heavyweight champion who refused to serve his country in the war against communism.

In terms of fouling in the ring, Andrew Golota and Mike Tyson are good candidates.
Not sure if your playing devils advocate but if you arent, we have:

Rapists, Murderers, Wife Beaters......
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:15 AM   #14
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What about fighters who used loaded gloves? Surely thats worse

I agree here. Luo Resto and Bob Fitzsimmons, pathetic.


Riddick Bowe is also worth mentioning


Outside of the ring, nearly every boxer was a wife beater for some reasons. The list is endless.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:33 AM   #15
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Muhammad Ali, for being an American world heavyweight champion who refused to serve his country in the war against communism.

In terms of fouling in the ring, Andrew Golota and Mike Tyson are good candidates.
How many other black pro boxers in the top ten did you see go to Vietnam?
Do you hold the same brief for Dempsey and Willard ? who didnt serve in WW1,neither did Moran ,the results of the Vietnam conflict have vindicated Ali I think,but had he gone ,he was assured an easy time boosting troop morale,instead of which he refused and had his passport and living taken away for over three years while he awaited his appeal,ps John Wayne dodged the draft in WW2 ,and there,s a statue to him calling him a great American,still he did hate the "commies".
George Cochan a polish fighter hated blacks and spat in a black fighters face in the ring,fred Russell a contender from way back was as dirty a fighter as Zivic,who by the way was never dsqd,I found Hameds posturing over a fallen opponent sickening,I find him sickening to tell the truth,Galento was very dirty
Dear old Gentleman JimCorbett engaged in 2 fixed fightsthe one against Kid McCoy resulted in No decisio fights because of the aroma from it,he also spat in Fitz,s face prior to their fight ,and in common with Sharkey, Jeffries ,Hart,and Burns was an unabashed racist.Ray Robinson ,thep4p greatest,imo, beat his wife regularly,Johnson hit several of his women,the list is unending Lamotta raped a womanAre we judging fighters in the ring or out of it?
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