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View Poll Results: Who will be number won after May?
Mayweather(if he beats Mosley) 88 33.85%
Mosley(if he beats Mayweather) 23 8.85%
Manny(stays on top) 144 55.38%
Clottey (LMFAO) 5 1.92%
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:23 AM   #16
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Mayweather is the BEST fighter in the sport, wake up, its Manny`s achievements that earned him the p4p tag, not him being most talented.
Mayweather's the best boxer. It's a matter for debate and future fights whether he's the best fighter or not. The orthodox vs unorthodox talent battle is one that can only really be settled by getting in the ring and finding out.
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:24 AM   #17
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If Mosley beats Mayweather - Mosley is number 1, regardless of the Pacquiao Clottey result.
If Mayweather beats Mosley, but Pacquiao beats Clottey, Pacquiao remains number 1, with Mayweather number 2.
If Mayweather beats Mosley, but Pacquiao loses, Mayweather is number 1 and Mosley quite possibly could be number 2.

Clottey has no chance...sorry.
That is stupid. Bullshit. You cant say mosley is #1 but floyd isnt #1 if he beats mosley lol.
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:31 AM   #18
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That is stupid. Bullshit. You cant say mosley is #1 but floyd isnt #1 if he beats mosley lol.
Mayweather has beaten Marquez since he came out of "retirement".
Mosley is coming off beating Margarito (even though it was over a year ago), Margarito was #1 Welterweight at the time, so why is it stupid?
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:32 AM   #19
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to be the man you gotta beat the man

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at the moment manny is top, until someone beats him he cant lose that top spot unless he retires
That would never work, due to weight classes, Mosley could have never fought Jones when he was no 1 p4p, Mayweather cfouldnt fight Hopikins etc.

If mayweather beats Mosley he takes the number one spot, if Mosley wins then Pac keeps it and Mosley moves to number 2
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:37 AM   #20
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Mayweather has beaten Marquez since he came out of "retirement".
Mosley is coming off beating Margarito (even though it was over a year ago), Margarito was #1 Welterweight at the time, so why is it stupid?
I see where your coming from but whoever wins from pbf vs ssm should then face pac if pac doesn't lose of course. If Pac loses the new p4p should be the winner of pbf vs smm, IMO.
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:39 AM   #21
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Fraud has to fight Pac to take the throne
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:41 AM   #22
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Unless Pac loses, Pac stays at number 1. That's the way it works. Debate over.

Floyd never lost so floyd is still number 1. Floyd is linear welterweight champion.


Pac had a belt that was vacant and given to cotto for beating jennings
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:43 AM   #23
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I see where your coming from but whoever wins from pbf vs ssm should then face pac if pac doesn't lose of course. If Pac loses the new p4p should be the winner of pbf vs smm, IMO.
Definitely, if Pacquiao loses, the new P4P is the winner of Mayweather Mosley.
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:45 AM   #24
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Floyd never lost so floyd is still number 1. Floyd is linear welterweight champion.


Pac had a belt that was vacant and given to cotto for beating jennings
Floyd never lost, but he "retired", due to inactivity and other big bouts happening whilst he was "retired" he is not still number 1. And no he's not linear Welterweight Champion.
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:48 AM   #25
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At this moment of time current p4p is Pacman, not Floyd. Whether Floyd is a better fighter or not hes not #1 at the moment.
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Old 02-17-2010, 07:49 AM   #26
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You gotta beat the man. If Pac was a cruiser or something maybe Mayweather's win over Mosley could put him #1 but as they're both operating at 147 the only way for Floyd to be #1 is beat Pac.
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Why is it that Pacquiao doesn't need to beat unbeaten Floyd Mayweather to be number 1 whereas Floyd needs to beat Manny to be number 1?
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At this moment of time current p4p is Pacman, not Floyd. Whether Floyd is a better fighter or not hes not #1 at the moment.
If we were discussing that, it might be a valid point. We're discussing what happens after May.

If Pacquiao looks as dominant in the Clottey fight as he did against Cotto, there's no real reason to demote him from #1, no matter what happens in Mayweather-Mosley, IMO.

If he looks poor (by his standards) and struggles to a decision and the winner of Mayweather-Mosley looks amazing in that bout, there may be a case for switching them.

If Pac loses, then the winner of Mayweather-Mosley has a stronger claim on the number 1 spot.

At the moment I don't think the Pac-Clottey fight will be close enough to threaten Pac's position. If anything, both fights are going to be competitive but clear UDs, in which case Pac stays #1.
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Why is it that Pacquiao doesn't need to beat unbeaten Floyd Mayweather to be number 1 whereas Floyd needs to beat Manny to be number 1?
Because he is currently #1.
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Why is it that Pacquiao doesn't need to beat unbeaten Floyd Mayweather to be number 1 whereas Floyd needs to beat Manny to be number 1?
Cus he retired, and dont use unbeaten as an excuse cus theres many fighters other than floyd who are currently unbeaten.

Its like saying if tyson came out of retirment you wouldnt be saying Vitali has to beat tyson to be #1 cus tyson was one of the best heavweights in the world.

EDIT - the tyson example is a bit stupid but people should get what i mean.
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