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Old 02-28-2010, 04:41 PM   #16
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or combine the max strength/isometrics with explosive movements to form a complex...
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Old 03-01-2010, 09:43 PM   #17
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Or combine the max strength/isometrics with explosive movements to form a complex...

What are isometrics again?
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:47 AM   #18
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:56 AM   #19
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Any stregth training should be done for legs. Nothing on your upperbody. None of that crossfit or explosive workout shit. All it does is effect your timing and accuracy.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:07 AM   #20
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Any stregth training should be done for legs. Nothing on your upperbody. None of that crossfit or explosive workout shit. All it does is effect your timing and accuracy.
?????????????????? your actually serrious arent you
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:12 AM   #21
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?????????????????? your actually serrious arent you
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and id love for you to explain your philosophy on how any for of upperbody stregth training helps in boxing.

Thick neck, lean upperbody, strong legs is the way to go. Anything abs, running, swimming, road biking, and boxing. Stretching is a must.
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:17 AM   #22
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im not saying you cant do weights.. when done righ it can be very effective. strength doesnt mean shit if you cant effectively apply it... and strength does NOT equal power,


you want strength focus on the 3-4 rep range with a 5 rep max weight or functional isometric contractions.....you want power... focus on explosive lifts and plyometrics, explosiveness and strength endurance is way more important in combative sports than max strength
MMA but not boxing!
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MMA but not boxing!
meant to say 'IF' you want max strength....notice how at the end i say, explosiveness and endurance is better??
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Old 03-02-2010, 05:47 AM   #24
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100%

and id love for you to explain your philosophy on how any for of upperbody stregth training helps in boxing.

Thick neck, lean upperbody, strong legs is the way to go. Anything abs, running, swimming, road biking, and boxing. Stretching is a must.
last time i checked, neck and abs were upperbody...

and quick answer.... (bout to leave for town..)

overall conditioning and prevention of injury.......

to0 be honest for a while my lower body was lacking, but i have big lats and shoulders , i can generate alot of power because of that...also with technique and orm... but saying that my main focus is now my lower body for that added power...... there is no valid reason to neglect your upper body
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bench with dumbells instead, requires alot more stabilization,
squats , pullups and chins are excellent, just dont give too much focus on maximum strength.

and by variety i mean, change up ur rountine and exercises every while... dont let yourself adapt to workouts.


speedbags and double end bags sound like the obvious answer but its the way for it... explosive movements like plyometrics also, but more importantly always have the intention of speed, focus on it,
This post basically sums it up, esp the part about using dumbbells for the bench press versus a barbell for a "boxer"

As boxers ( I am a personal trainer), you all need to be able to have stable and flexible rotator cuffs as the force in your punches start from the lower body, explode through the hips/core and then release through the shoulders. So the DB bench press allows you to focus on strength but mobility as well.
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Hey guys,

recently I have been working out more at the YMCA to get fit for summer. I haven't been boxing for a while and I noticed my punching speed has become slower. I have been doing mainly bench press, pullups, squats and dead lifts but I also occasionally do bicep curls etc( I plan of doing more of them).
What can I do to regain my speed but at the same time bulk up?
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Hey guys,

recently I have been working out more at the YMCA to get fit for summer. I haven't been boxing for a while and I noticed my punching speed has become slower. I have been doing mainly bench press, pullups, squats and dead lifts but I also occasionally do bicep curls etc( I plan of doing more of them).
What can I do to regain my speed but at the same time bulk up?
your punches are slower because you dont practice them

a few weeks isn't enough time for you to gain serious muscle mass and reduce speed.

if you want to put on weight while retaining speed and technique, keep practicing, keep hitting the bag etc do some strength work and up your calorie intake.
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Stay away from bicep curls, bad idea for a boxer.
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your punches are slower because you dont practice them

a few weeks isn't enough time for you to gain serious muscle mass and reduce speed.

if you want to put on weight while retaining speed and technique, keep practicing, keep hitting the bag etc do some strength work and up your calorie intake.
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Old 03-04-2010, 03:01 PM   #30
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Stay away from bicep curls, bad idea for a boxer.
not for a boxer with a muscular imbalance...things like that always depend on the individual.
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