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Old 03-04-2010, 08:12 AM   #31
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Claiming that Duran's resume is constructed of a win over " one great fighter ", does not even begin to do his legacy any justice.. He was arguably the greatest lightweight of all time, defeated many very good contenders and titlists, plus was competitive in multiple divisions and had longevity that was absolutely sick..

I do agree with some who say that he was a little overrated though... While his reign at lightweight was one of the most impressive in any weight division in history, having your best wins coming against Estaban Dejesus and Ken Buchanan wasn't as much so... They were certainly good fighters, but his great reign lacked great wins.... His ascent to the welterweight division, resulting in victories over Carlos palamino and the greatest win of his career against Ray Leonard, are what places him over the top...competing admirably against Marvin Hagler and beating Iran Barkley at an advanced age, were respectable feats as well, but not quite historic.... He also had a very bad loss to Thomas Hearns, and was beaten by such forgetables as Kirkland Laing and Robbie Simms...

All in all, he is probably worthy of being a top 10 pound for pound guy, but some have him anywhere from #1 to #5, and I think this is a tad over generous..
As always, well thought out post.

I have Duran at no.6.

But to the thread starter, who thinks it was all based on one win....I mean, come on
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:12 AM   #32
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I'd also like to know why the poll isn't public?
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:13 AM   #33
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As always, well thought out post.

I have Duran at no.6.

But to the thread starter, who thinks it was all based on one win....I mean, come on

Thanks,

While Duran's win over Sugar Ray, is most certainly the brightest jewel in his crown, his resume has far, far more depth than just the claim to a single great victory...
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:38 AM   #34
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It all depends whos rating him doesnt it? Top ten is reasonable but top three sounds excessive.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:39 AM   #35
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By Pachilles? No.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:45 AM   #36
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By Pachilles? No.
I have him 14-18 All time P4P on my pro-footage P4P list. Is that so underrated?

My problem is that in my mind Leonard, Hearns and Hagler are most certainly above him. And that Montreal Duran isn't KOing Prime Ali, Tyson, Lewis, Marciano, Holyfield, Jones Jr.
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I have him 14-18 All time P4P on my pro-footage P4P list. Is that so underrated?

My problem is that in my mind Leonard, Hearns and Hagler are most certainly above him. And that Montreal Duran isn't KOing Prime Ali, Tyson, Lewis, Marciano, Holyfield, Jones Jr.
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Old 03-04-2010, 09:52 AM   #38
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And that Montreal Duran isn't KOing Prime Ali, Tyson, Lewis, Marciano, Holyfield, Jones Jr.

What's that suppost to mean
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What's that suppost to mean
It means i'm in the minority

Exaggerations aside though i made a joke post awhile ago asking if Montreal Duran would defeat prime Ali, Tyso and Lewis. And if you look through all the sarcastic respones, there are infact several posters that do give Duran a chance. Anarci being one of them.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:01 AM   #40
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Many here have him in the top5 p4p. I think that's overrating him severely. Top10 is also questionable, although i'm the first to admit that my knowledge on great fighters below 160 and before 1940 is lacking.

What annoys me most though, is the fact that he (and/or his supporters) got an excuse for every single loss. The Holyfield/Toney syndrome.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:08 AM   #41
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What annoys me most though, is the fact that he (and/or his supporters) got an excuse for every single loss. The Holyfield/Toney syndrome.
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Old 03-04-2010, 10:09 AM   #42
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Many people say Roberto Duran is in the top 3 greatest fighter list. Is Duran overrated????? The man beat one great fighter in his career and then lost to that fighter when he quit!!!! Is Duran overrated??????

Your punctuation is absurd. Your statement, "The man beat one great fighter in his career and then lost to that fighter when he quit" ignores his lightweight campaign. That draws the theory that you assume Sugar Ray to be the best point of his career. It's a good place, he did beat him the first time around. Not the entire point though. You're ignoring way too much information based on the way you opened this thread. I'd hope you have more to talk about then this.
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What annoys me most though, is the fact that he (and/or his supporters) got an excuse for every single loss. The Holyfield/Toney syndrome.
Holyfield/Toney ??
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I'd also like to know why the poll isn't public?
Pure FEAR & shit scared of getting some of this
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