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Old 03-04-2010, 09:44 PM   #1
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Default Boxers who made bad decisions!

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[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] has signed a contract with the Ultimate Fighting Championship, but you knew that already. If his opponent fights intelligently, Toney is likely to become a grappling dummy, but you knew that already, too.


The idea of the accredited boxer against the martial artist is not a new concept, though Toney is far and away the most famous and credible to participate in it. Unfortunately, precedent is not on his side. Here's a scorecard.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: A capable light heavyweight contender who [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] before getting talked into a decent payday at UFC 1. He was matched against [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in the quarterfinals. Spoiler: He did not make it to the semifinals. Verdict: Still has one last big payday waiting whenever he decides to sell that one glove on eBay.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: Japanese pro boxer -- who knew Japan had a pro circuit? -- who went 0-5 in MMA and 0-2 in K-1 kickboxing. Verdict: Terrific hands, carp on the mat.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: Collapsing stationary target [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] was boxing's biggest win in the sport; two years earlier, he was choked out by MMA neophyte Kimbo Slice. Verdict: Mercer to MMA: Do not stand completely still in front of a pro boxer. MMA to Mercer: Gee, no kidding. Sylvia will never live this one down.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 48-5-1 boxer who made the transition in 2005, racking up an impressive 5-0 record helped in no small part by a black belt in judo. Once tossed Lennox Lewis on his rear in a training camp. Verdict: judo-boxing is formidable.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: Heavyweight who fought a who's who of the 1990s scene, including Mike Tyson and Lewis; 4-11 in K-1 kickboxing. Before Toney, Botha was involved in probably the most clear-cut boxer-versus-grappler fight in modern fightsport, an armbar loss to current UFC middleweight and accomplished judoka [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. Verdict: Took a full cup to get into mixed-style fighting before it became fashionable for boxers to do so.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: Club-level Toughman puncher who accumulated a fair 12-6 record in MMA, including a key lock submission win in Pride. Despite weighing 350 pounds, Butterbean lost to 150-pound [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in his MMA debut in 2003. Yes, there's a learning curve at work here. Verdict: Like trying to take down a bowling ball.

Shannon Briggs: Trained at American Top Team, which should result in a credible and well-rounded game, but only stepped outside of boxing's rules once, for a K-1 fight against -- wait for it -- wrestler [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. Verdict: Shameful deck-stacking.

Jeremy Bates: Journeyman heavyweight who got called up to fight Evander Holyfield. (Bates lost.) Currently cross-training.

Ricardo Mayorga: Taking the worst first fight possible against veteran fighter [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in May.

Flirted: James "Bonecrusher" Smith (approached for UFC 1), Toney (labeled "crazy enough" to try MMA by Dana White earlier in the last decade), Floyd Mayweather (2007 PR stunt babble), Hasim Rahman (floated the idea early in 2009 but never followed up), Roy Jones (offered to fight [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in the UFC, UFC declined).


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Mercer, Mayorga, Butterbean, Briggs, Botha, BoneCrusher & Williams..

How many $$$$$ did these guys make in the Pro Boxing Arena??? Millions!!

Resorting to this tripe is a pretty clear indication that promoters are crooked or fighters cant save a dollar.. Or both..

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Found this interesting:


[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] has signed a contract with the Ultimate Fighting Championship, but you knew that already. If his opponent fights intelligently, Toney is likely to become a grappling dummy, but you knew that already, too.


The idea of the accredited boxer against the martial artist is not a new concept, though Toney is far and away the most famous and credible to participate in it. Unfortunately, precedent is not on his side. Here's a scorecard.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: A capable light heavyweight contender who [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] before getting talked into a decent payday at UFC 1. He was matched against [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in the quarterfinals. Spoiler: He did not make it to the semifinals. Verdict: Still has one last big payday waiting whenever he decides to sell that one glove on eBay.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: Japanese pro boxer -- who knew Japan had a pro circuit? -- who went 0-5 in MMA and 0-2 in K-1 kickboxing. Verdict: Terrific hands, carp on the mat.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: Collapsing stationary target [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] was boxing's biggest win in the sport; two years earlier, he was choked out by MMA neophyte Kimbo Slice. Verdict: Mercer to MMA: Do not stand completely still in front of a pro boxer. MMA to Mercer: Gee, no kidding. Sylvia will never live this one down.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: 48-5-1 boxer who made the transition in 2005, racking up an impressive 5-0 record helped in no small part by a black belt in judo. Once tossed Lennox Lewis on his rear in a training camp. Verdict: judo-boxing is formidable.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: Heavyweight who fought a who's who of the 1990s scene, including Mike Tyson and Lewis; 4-11 in K-1 kickboxing. Before Toney, Botha was involved in probably the most clear-cut boxer-versus-grappler fight in modern fightsport, an armbar loss to current UFC middleweight and accomplished judoka [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. Verdict: Took a full cup to get into mixed-style fighting before it became fashionable for boxers to do so.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]: Club-level Toughman puncher who accumulated a fair 12-6 record in MMA, including a key lock submission win in Pride. Despite weighing 350 pounds, Butterbean lost to 150-pound [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in his MMA debut in 2003. Yes, there's a learning curve at work here. Verdict: Like trying to take down a bowling ball.

Shannon Briggs: Trained at American Top Team, which should result in a credible and well-rounded game, but only stepped outside of boxing's rules once, for a K-1 fight against -- wait for it -- wrestler [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. Verdict: Shameful deck-stacking.

Jeremy Bates: Journeyman heavyweight who got called up to fight Evander Holyfield. (Bates lost.) Currently cross-training.

Ricardo Mayorga: Taking the worst first fight possible against veteran fighter [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in May.

Flirted: James "Bonecrusher" Smith (approached for UFC 1), Toney (labeled "crazy enough" to try MMA by Dana White earlier in the last decade), Floyd Mayweather (2007 PR stunt babble), Hasim Rahman (floated the idea early in 2009 but never followed up), Roy Jones (offered to fight [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] in the UFC, UFC declined).

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Rossen can't talk about mma without denigrating boxing - he is possibly the most unbalanced "writer" around.
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