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Old 03-07-2010, 03:00 PM   #1
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Default 6 weeks to lose 14 pounds

I weigh 179 right now after a nice meal. I need to be at 165 for the golden gloves in my state in six weeks. I didn't think it would be a problem except when I started training, as usual I gain weight instead of losing it.

So I know how to lose water weight and diet properly. Im no pro but its easy to wake up, run, eat breakfast right away, eat small meals often and drink a lot of water and not eat after 9. But I'm worried Im going to try to make the weight and get close but not close enough and have to pull out or fight at the higher weight at a disadvantage. Im thinking I might have to just pull an Adamek and fight and 178 with the big guys.

Any thoughts?

Suggestions?

I just bought a fat wild salmon. Mmm


Everything is much appreciated!

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Old 03-07-2010, 03:03 PM   #2
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I'd just lose the weight, plenty of time left.
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Old 03-07-2010, 03:05 PM   #3
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At this stage I would suggest training like a mad man. I wouldn't cut 14 pounds out this far out with not eating, drying out etc

Do your runs etc and see where your weight is in a few weeks. It may fly off if you train hard enough. I've seen slim guys lose ALOT of weight in a month when they start training for a fight.
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Old 03-07-2010, 03:34 PM   #4
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ya as said above, don't sweat the eating too much just yet. you can likely clean your diet right out near the end, say beginning 2-3 weeks and then go small meals hard at quasi-paleo, essentially nothing but fruits veggies and lean protein rich meats (chicken, lean steak etc) and likely take off another 10 no probs if need be, and you still have reducing water in small amounts if totally need be right at the end.

You'll still need some carbs ofc along the way, but use them wisely for fuel. small amounts pre-workouts and so on.

Maybe start cleaning the diet up now some, and keep doing that as you get closer. But really, if you start with a lot of working out, ur gonna need to fuel them.
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Old 03-07-2010, 04:22 PM   #5
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Im no pro but its easy to wake up, run, eat breakfast right away, eat small meals often and drink a lot of water and not eat before 9.
Huh? Don't eat before 9? What's that about? That the time of day your body suddenly starts using calories or what?

Eat a bit less and train harder.

And eat breakfast THEN run.
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Old 03-07-2010, 05:35 PM   #6
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Huh? Don't eat before 9? What's that about? That the time of day your body suddenly starts using calories or what?

Eat a bit less and train harder.

And eat breakfast THEN run.
Thank you, I fixed that error.

In my training camps before we ate after running but Im geussing your way is probably better.

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ya as said above, don't sweat the eating too much just yet. you can likely clean your diet right out near the end, say beginning 2-3 weeks and then go small meals hard at quasi-paleo, essentially nothing but fruits veggies and lean protein rich meats (chicken, lean steak etc) and likely take off another 10 no probs if need be, and you still have reducing water in small amounts if totally need be right at the end.

You'll still need some carbs ofc along the way, but use them wisely for fuel. small amounts pre-workouts and so on.

Maybe start cleaning the diet up now some, and keep doing that as you get closer. But really, if you start with a lot of working out, ur gonna need to fuel them.
Ya Im training twice a day with meals in between, about 4 or 5 a day. Im going to get the necassery groceries to eat right. But I wont deny myself food for now. If Im bigger in two weeks Ill fight at 178, because I would like to challenge myself there anyway.

My doctor who does boxing matches told me not to eat fruits because they make you gain weight. Only meats and vegetables, bread, potatoes, rice(?goodorbad?)

By the way my doctore doesnt think I have the weight to lose, Im pretty skinny and 6'3, I think Im a little too big. I would definitly be dehydrated. Id thinking about eating and fighting with the big boys on this. We'll see how I am in two weeks. If I can lose 5 pounds then I will try to drop more.
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Old 03-07-2010, 05:51 PM   #7
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You think that you will definately be dehydrated and your doc says you will struggle to make weight, yet you still want to make 165? Personally, i'd be looking to move up a class if this was the case.
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lol meh. while I can understand your doc is looking after your health and that is good, he apparently is kinda stupid too suggesting you eat lots of breads, potatoes and rice as opposed to fruit in an effort to lose weight.
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My doctor who does boxing matches told me not to eat fruits because they make you gain weight.
You should punch your doctor.
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Old 03-07-2010, 08:55 PM   #10
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You should punch your doctor.
x2, hes a doctor not a dietician. Ask hom for drugs not weight loss tips (kidding)
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Old 03-08-2010, 07:29 AM   #11
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I don't think he means don't eat fruit. I think he means don't eat fruit the week of the fight. I think they make you retain water weight or some shit like that.

Boxers should train hard and fight at their natural weight. I can't condone anything other than a few pounds to make weight. You go too far and it WILL affect your game.
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Boxers should train hard and fight at their natural weight. I can't condone anything other than a few pounds to make weight. You go too far and it WILL affect your game.


Couldn't have put it better myself!
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I don't think he means don't eat fruit. I think he means don't eat fruit the week of the fight. I think they make you retain water weight or some shit like that.
Even if he meant that, that's not true either.
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Old 03-08-2010, 12:24 PM   #14
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I think eating fruit is fine. But don't drink fruitjuice (like orange juice) from the supermarket.
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I tend to agree with every and anyone who suggests you should fight at your natural weight. The thing is, often our natural weight finds us stuck in the middle of a division. I'm applying this logic to tournaments btw, not club shows where who cares, come in as healthy and strong as possible because it works differently and you have lots of range to work with. (like 12 lbs higher or lower after welter?)

But for tours I'd rather be at the top end of a lesser weight then coming in light to a higher division. Where some guy(s) could have a lot if strength and power over you, and you end up fighting a guy who is naturally 15 lbs heavier who cut properly to get there.

And I use the word properly with emphasis. Because yes, if you cut wrong going down, as in try to water cut it all off at the end, or screw up the nutrients you need to train a long the way, you're gonna be a sick puppy come fight time. As well, putting yourself at risk of physical harm. And the worst kind too...that being your brain.
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