Where does the Chagaev/Ibragimov match leave Wlad Klitschko ?

UKITAZ · 06-26-2007, 01:45 PM

Im excited about the unification match but im annoyed that none of them pushed for this fight with Wlad. If they had waited a couple of weeks they could have arranged a fight with Wlad later this year for undboubtebly a much bigger purse. Obviously there promoters know that neither has a chance against Wlad so have gone for the easy option. Lets hope after this fight there is enough pressure from media and fans for the winner to take on Wladimir Klitschko.

Where does everybody else think this leaves Wlad .... and the winner of the Peter/Maskaev/Vitali saga ??

justaboxingfan · 06-26-2007, 02:08 PM

I would like to see Vlad fight maskaev/peter winner as I dont see Vitali coming back despite all the talk. This would set up a unification belt or start something on that road. Either way, Vlad beats any current heavy

MilesP · 06-26-2007, 02:29 PM

I think if Ibragimov comes through we'll probably get another unification match against Wlad early next year.

Chagaev is promoted by Klit's former promoter. They had a falling out a couple of years ago and the Klits ended up suing him. There's a lot of bad blood there and I doubt there'll ever be a Chagaev-Wlad unification.

Relentless · 06-26-2007, 02:31 PM

see was it so hard to make a unification match??? wlad and his excuses, what does he have to say now???

i can imagine right now vitali coming back to fight sultan ibragimov just so he can stop unification.

KobeIsGod · 06-26-2007, 02:34 PM

Just cause sultan or ruslan will have two of the 4 major belts dont make em champ. the winner will establish themselves as #2 or #3 (some feel peter is penciled in at #2). til wlad loses, he is #1. Wasn't riddick bowe widely considered the #1 hw shortly after stopping evander even though he had no belt!?!

Relentless · 06-26-2007, 02:36 PM

no the winner is the real champ, we get a unified champ after 8 years and you will put him in no.2???

they will not need a paper telling them who they are.

Guru_Too_You · 06-26-2007, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KobeIsGod

Just cause sultan or ruslan will have two of the 4 major belts dont make em champ. the winner will establish themselves as #2 or #3 (some feel peter is penciled in at #2). til wlad loses, he is #1. Wasn't riddick bowe widely considered the #1 hw shortly after stopping evander even though he had no belt!?!

The point is that unification is a lot easier when the titlists are willing to fight each other.

This is something that has been missing since Lennox left the scene.

Danny Ocean · 06-26-2007, 02:38 PM

how does klitschko have any excuses

god people on this site jump to conclusions so fuckin fast

how do you know he was offered anything

he has a fight scheduled for july

Relentless · 06-26-2007, 02:39 PM

he wans't offered anything but he should have been the one doing the offering.

looks to me like he wasn't really interested.

Shotgun · 06-26-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

see was it so hard to make a unification match??? wlad and his excuses, what does he have to say now???

Guess who's NOT involved? You got it, Don King

This is the first time in years where DKP hasn't been able to hold up unification. What, you think it's coincidence that the first time in years that DKP has control of none of the belts we're finally seeing a unification? Or could you not see through Don King's BS?

Relentless · 06-26-2007, 02:41 PM

but how was don king stopping unifications??? wasn't he the one that set up 2 of the biggest unification tournaments?

just watch vitlay come back and try and get a shot at either the wba or wbo just to stop unification.

DamonD · 06-26-2007, 02:42 PM

Well, definitely looking to take on the Chagaev/Ibragimov winner I hope.
Especially since the WBC belt is tied up in loops at the moment...it would seem to be an obvious pick for Wladimir.

Fight Brewster, and if he wins that then get in another quick fight against an easier guy just to keep his hand in...then go after the new WBA & WBO champ.

Shotgun · 06-26-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

he wans't offered anything but he should have been the one doing the offering.

looks to me like he wasn't really interested.

Sultan just won his title earlier this month in a mandatory bout, he wasn't the champ when Wlad-Brewster was signed. And he signed his fight with Brewster at almost the same time Chagaev-Valuev fought in another mandatory match. Neither Ibragimov nor Chagaev would have fought Wlad in July regardless, and if Wlad wins he can easily fight one more time this year

Wlad's last fight before this was also a mandatory

Guru_Too_You · 06-26-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

but how was don king stopping unifications??? wasn't he the one that set up 2 of the biggest unification tournaments?

just watch vitlay come back and try and get a shot at either the wba or wbo just to stop unification.

Had nothing to do with unification. Only the dollar signs attached to Tyson and Trinidad's names.

Relentless · 06-26-2007, 02:47 PM

i dont remember wlad calling out anyone after winning the ibf, he could have made some noise, made himself heard show that he really wanted to be the best, he i just happy being a belt holder.

06-26-2007, 01:45 PM	#1
UKITAZ Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 302 vCash: 1000	Where does the Chagaev/Ibragimov match leave Wlad Klitschko ? Im excited about the unification match but im annoyed that none of them pushed for this fight with Wlad. If they had waited a couple of weeks they could have arranged a fight with Wlad later this year for undboubtebly a much bigger purse. Obviously there promoters know that neither has a chance against Wlad so have gone for the easy option. Lets hope after this fight there is enough pressure from media and fans for the winner to take on Wladimir Klitschko. Where does everybody else think this leaves Wlad .... and the winner of the Peter/Maskaev/Vitali saga ??
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06-26-2007, 02:08 PM	#2
justaboxingfan Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 198 vCash: 1000	Re: Where does the Chagaev/Ibragimov match leave Wlad Klitschko ? I would like to see Vlad fight maskaev/peter winner as I dont see Vitali coming back despite all the talk. This would set up a unification belt or start something on that road. Either way, Vlad beats any current heavy
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06-26-2007, 02:29 PM	#3
MilesP Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 352 vCash: 1000	Re: Where does the Chagaev/Ibragimov match leave Wlad Klitschko ? I think if Ibragimov comes through we'll probably get another unification match against Wlad early next year. Chagaev is promoted by Klit's former promoter. They had a falling out a couple of years ago and the Klits ended up suing him. There's a lot of bad blood there and I doubt there'll ever be a Chagaev-Wlad unification.
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06-26-2007, 02:31 PM	#4
Relentless ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: East London Posts: 48,827 vCash: 1900	Re: Where does the Chagaev/Ibragimov match leave Wlad Klitschko ? see was it so hard to make a unification match??? wlad and his excuses, what does he have to say now??? i can imagine right now vitali coming back to fight sultan ibragimov just so he can stop unification.
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06-26-2007, 02:34 PM	#5
KobeIsGod Don't do it son! ESB Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kobeland Posts: 3,696 vCash: 1001	Re: Where does the Chagaev/Ibragimov match leave Wlad Klitschko ? Just cause sultan or ruslan will have two of the 4 major belts dont make em champ. the winner will establish themselves as #2 or #3 (some feel peter is penciled in at #2). til wlad loses, he is #1. Wasn't riddick bowe widely considered the #1 hw shortly after stopping evander even though he had no belt!?!
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06-26-2007, 02:36 PM	#6
Relentless ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: East London Posts: 48,827 vCash: 1900	Re: Where does the Chagaev/Ibragimov match leave Wlad Klitschko ? no the winner is the real champ, we get a unified champ after 8 years and you will put him in no.2??? they will not need a paper telling them who they are.
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06-26-2007, 02:38 PM	#8
Danny Ocean My nAmE IS MoNeY ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,553 vCash: 1000	Re: Where does the Chagaev/Ibragimov match leave Wlad Klitschko ? how does klitschko have any excuses god people on this site jump to conclusions so fuckin fast how do you know he was offered anything he has a fight scheduled for july
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06-26-2007, 02:39 PM	#9
Relentless ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: East London Posts: 48,827 vCash: 1900	Re: Where does the Chagaev/Ibragimov match leave Wlad Klitschko ? he wans't offered anything but he should have been the one doing the offering. looks to me like he wasn't really interested.
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06-26-2007, 02:41 PM	#11
Relentless ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: East London Posts: 48,827 vCash: 1900	Re: Where does the Chagaev/Ibragimov match leave Wlad Klitschko ? but how was don king stopping unifications??? wasn't he the one that set up 2 of the biggest unification tournaments? just watch vitlay come back and try and get a shot at either the wba or wbo just to stop unification.
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06-26-2007, 02:42 PM	#12
DamonD Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Tavistock, England Posts: 10,383 vCash: 1000	Re: Where does the Chagaev/Ibragimov match leave Wlad Klitschko ? Well, definitely looking to take on the Chagaev/Ibragimov winner I hope. Especially since the WBC belt is tied up in loops at the moment...it would seem to be an obvious pick for Wladimir. Fight Brewster, and if he wins that then get in another quick fight against an easier guy just to keep his hand in...then go after the new WBA & WBO champ.
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06-26-2007, 02:47 PM	#15
Relentless ESB Junkie East Side VIP Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: East London Posts: 48,827 vCash: 1900	Re: Where does the Chagaev/Ibragimov match leave Wlad Klitschko ? i dont remember wlad calling out anyone after winning the ibf, he could have made some noise, made himself heard show that he really wanted to be the best, he i just happy being a belt holder.
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