Wlad KO Chambers RD 12 - Page 3

ashley · 03-22-2010, 08:06 PM

I dont understand why Wlad cops shit.....he has fought the best fighters and contenders for his belt.....

Ruslan Chagaev who was 25 - 0 ....wins over Ruiz, Valuev,

Sultan Ibragimov who was 22 - 0...wins over Holyfeild, Briggs

Hasim Rahman who was 45 - 7....wins against Lewis, Meehan, Toney

Lamon Brewster who was 48 - 3....wins against Wlad, Meehan Golata

Chris Bird who was 34 - 1...wins over Vitali, Tua, Holyfield

Sam Peter who was 24 - 0...wins over toney x 2, Masekev

Other good name wins...Botha, Barrett, Mercer, McCline, Ray Austin, Williamson, Brock, Tony Thompson, Chambers

Looks good to me

Sox · 03-22-2010, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ashley

I dont understand why Wlad cops shit.....he has fought the best fighters and contenders for his belt.....

Ruslan Chagaev who was 25 - 0 ....wins over Ruiz, Valuev,

Sultan Ibragimov who was 22 - 0...wins over Holyfeild, Briggs

Hasim Rahman who was 45 - 7....wins against Lewis, Meehan, Toney

Lamon Brewster who was 48 - 3....wins against Wlad, Meehan Golata

Chris Bird who was 34 - 1...wins over Vitali, Tua, Holyfield

Sam Peter who was 24 - 0...wins over toney x 2, Masekev

Other good name wins...Botha, Barrett, Mercer, McCline, Ray Austin, Williamson, Brock, Tony Thompson, Chambers

Looks good to me

Tend to agree mate.

I'd put Wlad in the same league as Lewis any day of the week.

I think both Klits are very good, they both can only fight who's in front of them.
They both continue to win convincingly, yet they're criticised.

ashley · 03-22-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sox

Tend to agree mate.

I'd put Wlad in the same league as Lewis any day of the week.

I think both Klits are very good, they both can only fight who's in front of them.
They both continue to win convincingly, yet they're criticised.

Yeah mate same league for sure...but I do rate Lewis a bit higher because of wins over Vatli, Tyson and Holyfield....but Wlad has 2 or 3 more years left yet and a win over Haye will help

Sox · 03-22-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ashley

Yeah mate same league for sure...but I do rate Lewis a bit higher because of wins over Vatli, Tyson and Holyfield....but Wlad has 2 or 3 more years left yet and a win over Haye will help

Dunno whether I rate Lewis higher or not.

Lewis was actually behind on points against Vitali, a loss to a cut is unfortunate. Lewis certainly showed no signs of being the superior fighter.
And the win over Tyson, well, how many years past it was he?

I'll give you Holyfield though.

I'd have them pretty much even steven, and Vitali a little higher than both, but not much.

And yeh, both Klits beat Haye IMO.

ipswich express · 03-22-2010, 09:30 PM

Wladamir is nowhere near the quality of Lewis boys.

LeonMcS · 03-22-2010, 10:43 PM

I spent the whole telecast on Sunday arguing this with a mate. Of coure if the fight had been interesting we wouldn't have been talking about it at all.

ashley · 03-22-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ipswich express

Wladamir is nowhere near the quality of Lewis boys.

All the P4P list agree as well mate however help me out a bit here...

Lewis beat...Briggs, Holyfield, Tua and Tucker in good wins

Lewis avarage wins....

Joe Bugner well past his best
Tyson was well past his best
Vatili fight was a cut eye close on the cards...punchstats show Klit ahead in every department

The rest of the wins both guys share

I agree Lewis is a better rounded fighter and I agree Lewis i ahead in P4P but I think Wlad is way under rated?

I hope he fights Haye next......Wlad will win that as well

ipswich express · 03-22-2010, 11:11 PM

I must've missed Lewis beating Bugner, but I take it you mean Bruno. As I said in my top 100, he is far from my favourite fighter, but Lewis is miles better than Wlad at this point. The level of competition Wlad is fighting now is about as good as Michael Grant and Andrew Golota, and that could be a stretch. But he's winning, so you can't deny that.

Pusnuts · 03-22-2010, 11:17 PM

Lennox was more talented than the Klits, they are just athletic , Wlad KO6 Haye though IMO. Haye got nothing over him but he has the usual puncher's chance.

ashley · 03-22-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ipswich express

I must've missed Lewis beating Bugner, but I take it you mean Bruno. As I said in my top 100, he is far from my favourite fighter, but Lewis is miles better than Wlad at this point. The level of competition Wlad is fighting now is about as good as Michael Grant and Andrew Golota, and that could be a stretch. But he's winning, so you can't deny that.

Sorry..I was thinking Bruno V Bugner

Lewis V Brono was a good win..Bruno was still going well at the time.

LeonMcS · 03-22-2010, 11:30 PM

Brono was a great fighter.

teke · 03-22-2010, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ipswich express

Wladamir is nowhere near the quality of Lewis boys.

I agree

ashley · 03-22-2010, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LeonMcS

Brono was a great fighter.

Agree...save his loss against terrible Tim

TheDuke · 03-22-2010, 11:54 PM

One thing about Vitali that I believe holds true despite the the 2 losses on his record is that he has NEVER been been behind in a fight to my knowledge.

roscoe · 03-23-2010, 12:30 AM

Hey Ash what about Lewis' wins over Ruddock & Morrison & who can forget his war with Ray Mercer. Come on mate, Wlads not up with Lennox. And why do people stick to stats when Vitali was busted up around the eyes by punches nothing else. He got beat plain & simple.

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ashley Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: "Mr 3 time" Posts: 12,101 vCash: 1000	Re: Wlad KO Chambers RD 12 I dont understand why Wlad cops shit.....he has fought the best fighters and contenders for his belt..... Ruslan Chagaev who was 25 - 0 ....wins over Ruiz, Valuev, Sultan Ibragimov who was 22 - 0...wins over Holyfeild, Briggs Hasim Rahman who was 45 - 7....wins against Lewis, Meehan, Toney Lamon Brewster who was 48 - 3....wins against Wlad, Meehan Golata Chris Bird who was 34 - 1...wins over Vitali, Tua, Holyfield Sam Peter who was 24 - 0...wins over toney x 2, Masekev Other good name wins...Botha, Barrett, Mercer, McCline, Ray Austin, Williamson, Brock, Tony Thompson, Chambers Looks good to me
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ipswich express Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,938 vCash: 75	Re: Wlad KO Chambers RD 12 Wladamir is nowhere near the quality of Lewis boys.
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LeonMcS The Mayor of Kronkton East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: GAME MATCH POINT Posts: 6,076 vCash: 1000	Re: Wlad KO Chambers RD 12 I spent the whole telecast on Sunday arguing this with a mate. Of coure if the fight had been interesting we wouldn't have been talking about it at all.
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03-22-2010, 11:11 PM	#38
ipswich express Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,938 vCash: 75	Re: Wlad KO Chambers RD 12 I must've missed Lewis beating Bugner, but I take it you mean Bruno. As I said in my top 100, he is far from my favourite fighter, but Lewis is miles better than Wlad at this point. The level of competition Wlad is fighting now is about as good as Michael Grant and Andrew Golota, and that could be a stretch. But he's winning, so you can't deny that.
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Pusnuts Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 715 vCash: 1000	Re: Wlad KO Chambers RD 12 Lennox was more talented than the Klits, they are just athletic , Wlad KO6 Haye though IMO. Haye got nothing over him but he has the usual puncher's chance.
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LeonMcS The Mayor of Kronkton East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: GAME MATCH POINT Posts: 6,076 vCash: 1000	Re: Wlad KO Chambers RD 12 Brono was a great fighter.
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TheDuke Let me marry Boxed Ears Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Your girlfriend's handbag Posts: 0 vCash: 75	Re: Wlad KO Chambers RD 12 One thing about Vitali that I believe holds true despite the the 2 losses on his record is that he has NEVER been been behind in a fight to my knowledge.
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roscoe Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,351 vCash: 75	Re: Wlad KO Chambers RD 12 Hey Ash what about Lewis' wins over Ruddock & Morrison & who can forget his war with Ray Mercer. Come on mate, Wlads not up with Lennox. And why do people stick to stats when Vitali was busted up around the eyes by punches nothing else. He got beat plain & simple.
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