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Old 08-28-2007, 09:48 PM   #1
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Default Stanley Ketchel VS Gerald McClellan

Both were brutal fighters with huge punching power, but I think Ketchel is tougher, with better stamina and probably better power, too. I think Ketchel would win by knockout in around 8-10.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:20 AM   #2
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Greb can outlast him, but that's about it.

He's got a huge size advantage over Greb, but equal speed, and frightening power with a killer instinct to match it. McClellan was a much larger man boiled down into the body he boxed with.
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Old 08-29-2007, 01:08 PM   #3
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I favour Ketchel, he was even for a great HW like Johnson very dangerous, Jack said that Stanley was one of the hardest punchers he ever faced (and Johnson faced many big and strong HWs), Ketchel had the better resume, KOd better opponents during his short career, McClellan KOd only the very overrated Mugabi and the LMW Jackson, who had a glass chin...


Ketchel KO 8 McClellan
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:22 PM   #4
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Yep. Excellent points.
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:51 PM   #5
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Bwhahaa, whoops. Think I accidentally walked into the wrong thread.

*Wanders off*
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:32 PM   #6
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I favour Ketchel, he was even for a great HW like Johnson very dangerous, Jack said that Stanley was one of the hardest punchers he ever faced (and Johnson faced many big and strong HWs), Ketchel had the better resume, KOd better opponents during his short career, McClellan KOd only the very overrated Mugabi and the LMW Jackson, who had a glass chin...


Ketchel KO 8 McClellan
Ketchel only beat bill papke and an old jack o'brien, his resume is pretty thin too.
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Old 10-01-2007, 01:46 PM   #7
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Ketchel only beat bill papke and an old jack o'brien, his resume is pretty thin too.
he also beat the sullivans,thomas and lewis who were top names of the era.
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:06 PM   #8
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he also beat the sullivans,thomas and lewis who were top names of the era.
Yeah but compare that to the resumes of hagler, monzon and hopkins and it looks like shit. Joppy and kieth holmes were two of the top middleweights of thier era, hopkins gets no credit for beating them, while ketchel gets praised for beating guys with journeyman records, go figure. I dont know why Ketchel is considered a top 10 middleweight, michael nunn honestly had a better title run than he did. Hell, james toney beat nunn, mccallum and reggie johnson at middleweight, he should be ranked higher than ketchel too.
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:11 PM   #9
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Ketchel only beat bill papke and an old jack o'brien, his resume is pretty thin too.

He died with 24 or so, and even though he beat the better names than McClellan...
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:38 PM   #10
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[quote=dave krieg]Of the men Ketchel fought and beat how many were black?Ok end of story.How many Ketchel fights have you people seen?I will bet you it was only a few if that so get a brain and stop letting opinions of old biased boxing writers cloud your judgement.All boxers from that era were unskilled because boxing was still in its infancy.Fighters also wore alot smaller gloves back then so even their power was overrated.
McClellan would win this one by devastating knockout.[/quote


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Ketchel fought Sam Langford, the black guy that beat Heavyweight Champ Jack Johnson, Ketchel a middleweight fought Jack Johnson and dropped him before getting stopped. Ketchel would kill McClellan, KO8
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:33 PM   #11
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Who the hell cares how many black fighters Ketchel faced. How many Irish or Jewish fighters did McClellan face?

As for boxing being in its infancy, it had actually been around in one form or another since the early 1700's. Do you really think that these skills suddenly came into existence in your lifetime? When a fight can go 20, 30, 50 rounds and last most of the day, you develop different skills. Don't knock it till you've tried it.

You did get one thing right though. Since there's little film of Ketchel, no one can really say whether he beats McClellan or not.
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Old 10-07-2007, 02:06 AM   #12
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Have to agree with littleguy, its not the first time you've brought this up Dave.

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Of the men Ketchel fought and beat how many were black?Ok end of story.

That to me sez you have some issues.
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:12 PM   #13
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Of the men Ketchel fought and beat how many were black?Ok end of story.How many Ketchel fights have you people seen?I will bet you it was only a few if that so get a brain and stop letting opinions of old biased boxing writers cloud your judgement.All boxers from that era were unskilled because boxing was still in its infancy.Fighters also wore alot smaller gloves back then so even their power was overrated.
McClellan would win this one by devastating knockout.[/quote


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Ketchel fought Sam Langford, the black guy that beat Heavyweight Champ Jack Johnson, Ketchel a middleweight fought Jack Johnson and dropped him before getting stopped. Ketchel would kill McClellan, KO8
Langford didn't beat Jack Johnson, doofus.
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