Sauerland officially protesting the decision to DQ AA - Page 2

Sugar Rob · 03-28-2010, 03:32 PM

I've voted AA innocent, but NOT because I think he didn't intend to hit Dirrell, he's a frustrating fighter and AA had to go for blood. He meant to hit him.

But had Dirrell got straight back up, would we be looking at a point docked instead? (What little difference that would've made) Dirrell milked this for all it's worth. A shameless display of playacting. I'm not complaining too hard (I'd bet on Dirrell beforehand) but all he had to do was dance and run for another round and a half to take it. He took the easy way out once AA started to look lively in his business rounds.

If Dirrell struggles against Ward, he's always got a career in the WWF.

ollyc · 03-28-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar Rob

But had Dirrell got straight back up, would we be looking at a point docked instead?

Yes we would. Why? Because those are the rules.

nip102 · 03-28-2010, 03:41 PM

pointless and stupid by sauerland.AA isn't the first fighter to do something stupid during a fight but thats no reason to try and overturn it.Also sauerland risk ruining the whole tourney with this.The next fight camp should be interesting

Sugar Rob · 03-28-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ollyc

Yes we would. Why? Because those are the rules.

Well, um...yeah. That was kinda the point I was getting at(!)

Guy · 03-28-2010, 04:40 PM

Seems ridiculous to protest, the foul happened I don't think there was much thought behind it. Just a heat of the moment thing.

KERRZO · 03-28-2010, 04:44 PM

Pathetic

Leif Erikson · 03-28-2010, 06:34 PM

The ref was poor but let's not forget that he called against KDs for BOTH fighters, even though Abraham's was a more traditional 'flooring' of the opponent. The DQ, however, was an entirely just decision. Sauerland look very bad here, and once again have failed to mention the acting produced by Abraham in plenty of his bouts with his childish low-blow complaints.

Cobbler · 03-28-2010, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Leif Erikson

The ref was poor but let's not forget that he called against KDs for BOTH fighters, even though Abraham's was a more traditional 'flooring' of the opponent.

Yes Abraham's included a punch landing, which is traditionally required for a knockdown. The one that he didn't call for Dirrell was a correct non-call.

ellaineo · 03-28-2010, 06:51 PM

Seems a bit pointless. The ref was shite all night but you can't hit people whilst they are down. Still can't decide whether Dirrell was as badly hurt as he looked or whether he realised that there was a danger of getting knocked out late on so he thought he would take the dq. If he had got straight up then it would have been a point docked which at that point of the fight would have been immaterial Abraham knew he needed a KO.

TFFP · 03-28-2010, 06:53 PM

Whether he intended it to end up like that is besides the point, my personal opinion is he didn't and it was more instinctual than anything. But the point is he did hit the guy when he was down and knocked him out, there is only one decision the ref can make in that instance.

Badgeronimous · 03-28-2010, 09:03 PM

I don't think he meant to get himself DQ'd, but he can have little argument over the DQ.

It looks a lot worse in slow motion, than it does in real time. The whole incidents plays out in a blink of an eye. I don't for a second believe that somebody who's pumped up, and going in for the kill will make, in a split second, a rational decision about whether it's right or wrong to throw a punch.

Either way it is a DQ.

Dunky McCafferty · 03-28-2010, 09:49 PM

Personally, its as iconclusive to me as the Buchanan-Duran fight. No matter how many times I watch, I cant decide if the guy on the receiving end is acting or not.

Dirrell got the nod, & the scotsman did not. What a pain in the ass boxing is at times.

Scottish · 03-28-2010, 09:52 PM

know he was down when he punched him?

Debatable.

Was the DQ justified, 100% definetly.

Flea Man · 03-29-2010, 03:29 AM

Neither poll option applies IMO.

It is pointless; Abraham should've been disqualified. But it all happened very quickly, I don't think he thought 'fuck it I'm gonna hit you while your down' it just happened quickly. Abraham has got what he deserved, certainly didn't get 'exposed' or anything, as some people like to say.

HMSTempleGarden · 03-29-2010, 07:38 AM

even if Dirrell hadn't been "knocked out" Abraham would still have been DQ'd.

View Poll Results: Sauerland protests AA DQ.
This is entirely justified. AA is innocent!	13	23.21%
GTFO. AA deliberately tried to KO Dirrell when he was down	43	76.79%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

03-28-2010, 03:32 PM	#16
Sugar Rob Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 114 vCash: 1179	Re: Sauerland officially protesting the decision to DQ AA I've voted AA innocent, but NOT because I think he didn't intend to hit Dirrell, he's a frustrating fighter and AA had to go for blood. He meant to hit him. But had Dirrell got straight back up, would we be looking at a point docked instead? (What little difference that would've made) Dirrell milked this for all it's worth. A shameless display of playacting. I'm not complaining too hard (I'd bet on Dirrell beforehand) but all he had to do was dance and run for another round and a half to take it. He took the easy way out once AA started to look lively in his business rounds. If Dirrell struggles against Ward, he's always got a career in the WWF.
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03-28-2010, 03:41 PM	#18
nip102 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,404 vCash: 987	Re: Sauerland officially protesting the decision to DQ AA pointless and stupid by sauerland.AA isn't the first fighter to do something stupid during a fight but thats no reason to try and overturn it.Also sauerland risk ruining the whole tourney with this.The next fight camp should be interesting
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03-28-2010, 04:40 PM	#20
Guy Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,930 vCash: 1000	Re: Sauerland officially protesting the decision to DQ AA Seems ridiculous to protest, the foul happened I don't think there was much thought behind it. Just a heat of the moment thing.
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03-28-2010, 04:44 PM	#21
KERRZO Glass Jaw ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Glasgow Posts: 502 vCash: 1000	Re: Sauerland officially protesting the decision to DQ AA Pathetic
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03-28-2010, 06:34 PM	#22
Leif Erikson Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,090 vCash: 1000	Re: Sauerland officially protesting the decision to DQ AA The ref was poor but let's not forget that he called against KDs for BOTH fighters, even though Abraham's was a more traditional 'flooring' of the opponent. The DQ, however, was an entirely just decision. Sauerland look very bad here, and once again have failed to mention the acting produced by Abraham in plenty of his bouts with his childish low-blow complaints.
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03-28-2010, 06:51 PM	#24
ellaineo Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,300 vCash: 500	Re: Sauerland officially protesting the decision to DQ AA Seems a bit pointless. The ref was shite all night but you can't hit people whilst they are down. Still can't decide whether Dirrell was as badly hurt as he looked or whether he realised that there was a danger of getting knocked out late on so he thought he would take the dq. If he had got straight up then it would have been a point docked which at that point of the fight would have been immaterial Abraham knew he needed a KO.
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03-28-2010, 06:53 PM	#25
TFFP The Eskimo East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Reykjavík Posts: 30,420 vCash: 2500	Re: Sauerland officially protesting the decision to DQ AA Whether he intended it to end up like that is besides the point, my personal opinion is he didn't and it was more instinctual than anything. But the point is he did hit the guy when he was down and knocked him out, there is only one decision the ref can make in that instance.
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03-28-2010, 09:03 PM	#26
Badgeronimous Will you stand? ESB Jr Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 249 vCash: 1000	Re: Sauerland officially protesting the decision to DQ AA I don't think he meant to get himself DQ'd, but he can have little argument over the DQ. It looks a lot worse in slow motion, than it does in real time. The whole incidents plays out in a blink of an eye. I don't for a second believe that somebody who's pumped up, and going in for the kill will make, in a split second, a rational decision about whether it's right or wrong to throw a punch. Either way it is a DQ.
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03-28-2010, 09:49 PM	#27
Dunky McCafferty KEYBOARD HARDCASE East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 5,855 vCash: 1000	Re: Sauerland officially protesting the decision to DQ AA Personally, its as iconclusive to me as the Buchanan-Duran fight. No matter how many times I watch, I cant decide if the guy on the receiving end is acting or not. Dirrell got the nod, & the scotsman did not. What a pain in the ass boxing is at times.
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03-28-2010, 09:52 PM	#28
Scottish Khan(t) take a punch ESB Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Amir Khan has bad genes - A.Garcia Posts: 1,461 vCash: 672	Re: Sauerland officially protesting the decision to DQ AA know he was down when he punched him? Debatable. Was the DQ justified, 100% definetly.
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03-29-2010, 03:29 AM	#29
Flea Man มวยสากล East Side VIP Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: @ferociousflea Posts: 44,065 vCash: 75	Re: Sauerland officially protesting the decision to DQ AA Neither poll option applies IMO. It is pointless; Abraham should've been disqualified. But it all happened very quickly, I don't think he thought 'fuck it I'm gonna hit you while your down' it just happened quickly. Abraham has got what he deserved, certainly didn't get 'exposed' or anything, as some people like to say.
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03-29-2010, 07:38 AM	#30
HMSTempleGarden Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Scotland Posts: 6,458 vCash: 2522	Re: Sauerland officially protesting the decision to DQ AA even if Dirrell hadn't been "knocked out" Abraham would still have been DQ'd.
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