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Old 04-03-2010, 06:24 AM   #16
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Default Re: Keys to Victory Haye vs Ruiz (Big Fights Part 1)

bloody hell, im doing a series of articles for a website inthis format, and i shared a preview with you guys, and it has been copied.

Just kidding, im no fussed.

HAYE
Find angles
Let the hands go
Keep it at range

RUIZ
get inside - make it messy
smother, maul and hold to frustrate Haye
work the body constantly
use the jab and be first with it to offset Haye
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Old 04-03-2010, 09:39 PM   #17
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I admit that I am a fool. I own up to it. I now believe that Haye stands a very, very serious chance of beating the Klitschkos, especially Vladimir.
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Old 04-03-2010, 09:45 PM   #18
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bloody hell, im doing a series of articles for a website inthis format, and i shared a preview with you guys, and it has been copied.

Just kidding, im no fussed.

HAYE
Find angles
Let the hands go
Keep it at range

RUIZ
get inside - make it messy
smother, maul and hold to frustrate Haye
work the body constantly
use the jab and be first with it to offset Haye
Sorry Mate, I had a feeling someone did something like this. I tried to base it along lines of Bernsteins in between rounds keys to victory.

Thanks to everyone who posted. Hope the forum can make it a regular thread for big fights. As much as i'm a fan of the casual threads which we all make it's nice to see people sit down and actually talk indepth about the fights. Some people on here got it wrong but hey end of the day you put your neck on the line where as others didn't. That's why this sport is so great.
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Old 04-03-2010, 09:51 PM   #19
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I admit that I am a fool. I own up to it. I now believe that Haye stands a very, very serious chance of beating the Klitschkos, especially Vladimir.
We all get some fight predictions wrong. At least you came back to this thread like you said you would
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Old 04-03-2010, 09:52 PM   #20
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I echo what Kos says Kenmore. I rarley predict a fight well. I think Haye-Valuev was nearest i come to perfect call.
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Old 04-03-2010, 09:54 PM   #21
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Thought my right hand thread looks pretty decent right now
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Old 04-03-2010, 09:58 PM   #22
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Thought my right hand thread looks pretty decent right now
Maybe your the third man to add to the sky team in thread i made. Great Call . I couldn't believe it..i was sitting there thinking boy Ruiz is coming for Haye then i heard ''boof BOOF!!!'' and he went down like a sack of spuds. Explosive and thing is he was walking backwards as he threw it. Amazing Power Haye has.
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Old 04-03-2010, 10:01 PM   #23
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I just see Haye being too fast and explosive for Ruiz. He will start off slowly not wasting too much energy (in case he can't get him out of there), testing a few 1-2's on Ruiz. Then in about the 4th-5th he will start to open up a bit more and try and take him out, if he can't then he will revert back to how he was fighting earlier and win a lopsided decision. I just think Ruiz is too past it at this stage and Haye will be able to keep him off for the duration. Even though he has suspect stamina, I don't see Ruiz capitalising on it.

My official prediction is Haye by TKO5, but I wouldn't be surprised if it went the distance. However, I think Haye will want to make a statement and get him out of there
My prediction wasn't too bad, especially the testing of a few 1-2's on Ruiz early (he should have threw more of them though!).
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Old 04-03-2010, 10:04 PM   #24
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Key number 1, fight near 40 year old, who's dumped the style which got him where he did.

To be fair, Haye did a professional job, you can't fault him, but.. to me it really did display what has happened to the division, it's in a sad state, has been for a long time, though you can't blame Haye for that.

Haye did all he had to and looked pretty good.
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Old 04-04-2010, 03:17 AM   #25
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Jon, who else is there to fight really?

Ruiz was his mandatory and has been proven a hard bastard. He didn't look shot, he was getting his punches off, he just couldn't compete with Haye's speed.
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Old 04-04-2010, 03:36 AM   #26
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Ruiz looked no worse than he did against Roy Jones many moons ago. He's not a talented man, he's a guy thats made the most of what he has along with some questionable tactics. He never had any speed or great reflexes to lose with age, and clearly he never lost his toughness.

However he is still borderline top 10, top 15. Which is a bit of a sad state of affairs.
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