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Old 04-03-2010, 04:21 PM   #1
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Default 03' RingMag Top 100 Punchers

Hey guys been reading here for TOO long, love the classic forum, the knowledge and opinions shown here are second to none and I have learned alot about fighters that have long been forgotten Thanks Guys.

Any surprises here on Ring Mags 100 Greatest Punchers?

1. Joe Louis
2. Sam Langford
3. Jimmy Wilde
4. Archie Moore
5. Sandy Saddler
6. Stanley Ketchell
7. Jack Dempsey
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. George Foreman
10. Earnie Shavers
11. Sugar Ray Robinson
12. Ruben Olivares
13. Wilfredo Gomez
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Sonny Liston
16. Mike Tyson
17. Bob Foster
18. Thomas Hearns
19. Khaosai Galaxy
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Carlos Zarate
22. Max Baer
23. Rocky Graziano
24. Matthew Saad Muhammad
25. Julian Jackson
26. Danny Lopez
27. Gerald McClellan
28. Roberto Duran
29. Rodrigo Valdez
30. Felix Trinidad
31. Pipino Cuevas
32. Jim Jefferies
33. Lennox Lewis
34. Bennie Briscoe
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Edwin Rosario
37. Tommy Ryan
38. John Mugabi
39. Joe Frazier
40. Carlos Monzon
41. Tony Zale
42. Michael Spinks
43. Joe Gans
44. Elmer Ray
45. George Godfrey
46. Naseem Hamed
47. Alfonso Zamora
48. David Tua
49. Cleveland Williams
50. Julio Cesar Chavez
51. Tiger Jack Fox
52. Joe Walcott
53. Gerry Cooney
54. Al (Bummy) Davis
55. Max Schmeling
56. Florentino Fernandez
57. Henry Armstrong
58. Bob Satterfield
59. Al Hostak
60. Jesus Pimentel
61. Eugene (Cyclone) Hart
62. Lew Jenkins
63. Harry Wills
64. Tom Sharkey
65. Terry McGovern
66. Jersey Joe Walcott
67. Kostya Tszyu
68. Leotis Martin
69. Buddy Baer
70. Donovan (Razor) Ruddock
71. Jose Luis Ramirez
72. Tommy Gomez
73. Jose Napoles
74. Kid McCoy
75. Antonio Esparragoza
76. Ricardo Moreno
77. Evander Holyfield
78. Ike Williams
79. Luis Firpo
80. Ricardo Lopez
81. Humberto Gonzalez
82. Bobby Chacon
83. Jock McAvoy
84. Eduardo Lausse
85. Eder Jofre
86. Charley Burley
87. Mike McCallum
88. Salvador Sanchez
89. Roy Jones Jr
90. Rodolfo Gonzalez
91. Nigel Benn
92. (Irish) Bob Murphy
93. Paul Berlenbach
94. Battling Torres
95. Chalky Wright
96. George (K.O.) Chaney
97. Andy Ganigan
98. Fred Fulton
99. Ingemar Johansson
100. Charley White
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Old 04-03-2010, 04:53 PM   #2
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I've always thought Armstrong should be WAY higher. Why is Al Hosak above Sal Sanchez?

Satterfield may have had more spactacular knockouts than Ike Williams, but Ike was one of the most proven punchers of all time. I think this list obviously favors heavyweights.
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Old 04-03-2010, 06:18 PM   #3
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I think Ingo at 99. is absurd.
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Obviously nobody will agree with th list.

I think it's not bad compared to some other lists I've seen. I think Ali and Johnson should be up there somewhere, assuming the list is about punching and not power.
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I think Ingo at 99. is absurd.
Leotis Martin at 68 is worse
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Old 04-03-2010, 09:13 PM   #6
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Obviously nobody will agree with th list.

I think it's not bad compared to some other lists I've seen. I think Ali and Johnson should be up there somewhere, assuming the list is about punching and not power.
yeah it seems soley about power (which they are vague about in their explaination) rather than punching in general. ali had a tremendous jab but only adequate power. johnson, in a pure power list, wouldn't be ranked too highly either.

for me the list is pretty good in that regard in terms of WHO is in the list, but not where. but that's just me
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Saad ahead of Spinks is ridiculous.
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Saad ahead of Spinks is ridiculous.
i've had trouble considering spinks' position in terms of his punching power. it wasn't until his championship reign that he became a true terror and though that record is impressive, i think his style turns many off and causes them to underestimate both him and his punch
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Leotis Martin at 68 is worse
should he be higher or lower? he only really has one notable win (sorry sonny...)
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i've had trouble considering spinks' position in terms of his punching power. it wasn't until his championship reign that he became a true terror and though that record is impressive, i think his style turns many off and causes them to underestimate both him and his punch
He wasn't underestimated in his time. Once established he was winning the biggest puncher for his weight awards and was always high up on any big puncher list regardless of weight. He was known to have great one punch ko power and pole axed plenty of opponents. His right hand was fabled. Saad was a big puncher but not as big as Spinks. IMO it's his tenure at heavyweight that hurts him in this. I think they may have marked him down a little on it.
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He wasn't underestimated in his time. Once established he was winning the biggest puncher for his weight awards and was always high up on any big puncher list regardless of weight. He was known to have great one punch ko power and pole axed plenty of opponents. His right hand was fabled. Saad was a big puncher but not as big as Spinks. IMO it's his tenure at heavyweight that hurts him in this. I think they may have marked him down a little on it.
good post and good point
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I like where Rodrigo Valdez is too.
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jackson and zarate should both be higher, above galaxy at the least
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Had I been writing the list, Henry Armstrong would have been top five. How can he not be? In three years, he knocked out the same amount of boxers as Joe Louis managed in his whole career.

Ike Williams would be top five too, honestly. Not for his knockout percentage, but potential, sudden eruption.
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Had I been writing the list, Henry Armstrong would have been top five. How can he not be? In three years, he knocked out the same amount of boxers as Joe Louis managed in his whole career.

Ike Williams would be top five too, honestly. Not for his knockout percentage, but potential, sudden eruption.
yeah despite write ups to the contrary and the occasional surprise, they put a lot of evidence of KO percentages which do not tell the whole story
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