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Old 10-09-2007, 04:46 PM   #1
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Now I know this should be probably left in the classic forum, but I always be criticized for a lack of a Contemporary view, so there is a positive bias here for modern fighters; have I got it right this time? (I think I might know the answer!)


The numbers in brackets were places I placed my top 35 of all-time in April 2005

100 Manny Paciquao
99 Harry Wills
98 Kid McCoy
97 Jeff Fenech
96 Carlos Ortiz
95 Jimmy McLarnin
94 Tony Zale
93 Ted ‘Kid’ Lewis
92 Freddie Welsh
91 Dick Tiger
90 Jeff Chandler
89 James J Corbett
88 Brian Mitchell
87 Wilfredo Gomez
86 Kid Chocolate
85 Marcel Cerdan
84 Joe Frazier
83 Winky Wright
82 Kostya Tszyu
81 Jimmy Carruthers
80 Jack McAuliffe
79 Rinty Monaghan
78 Nicolino Loche
77 Mike Tyson
76 Bob Montgomery
75 Lennox Lewis
74 Young Griffo
73 Aaron Pryor
72 Nino Benvenuti
71 Jim Driscoll
70 Salvador Sanchez
69 Mike McCallum
68 Jack Dempsey
67 Flash Elorde
66 Wilfred Benitez
65 Rocky Marciano
64 Felix Trinidad
63 Abe Attell
62 Antonio Cervantes
61 James J Jeffries
60 Al Brown
59 Eusebio Pedroza
58 Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil)
57 Evander Holyfield
56 Bob Foster
55 Larry Holmes
54 Stanley Ketchel (19)
53 Michael Spinks
52 Azumah Nelson
51 Ruben Olivares (32)
50 Jose Napoles
49 Pascual Perez
48 Manuel Ortiz
47 Ike Williams
46 Roy Jones Jr (35)
45 Maxie Rosenbloom
44 Jack Johnson
43 Floyd Mayweather Jr
42 Tony Canzoneri
41 George Foreman (34)
40 Eder Jofre (26)
39 Johnny Kilbane
38 Kid Gavilan
37 Tommy Loughran
36 Ricardo Lopez
35 Alexis Arguello (24)
34 Bernard Hopkins
33 Carlos Zarate (25)
32 (Barbados) Joe Walcott
31 Tommy Hearns (31)
30 Marvin Hagler (30)
29 Pancho Villa (21)
28 Emile Griffith
27 Joe Louis (29)
26 Joe Gans (33)
25 Gene Tunney (28.)
24 Terry McGovern
23 George Dixon (27)
22 Georges Carpentier (4)
21 Oscar de la Hoya (22)
20 Pernell Whitaker (23)
19 Julio Cesar Chavez (15)
18 Sammy Langford (9)
17 Barney Ross
16 Ray Leonard (13)
15 Carlos Monzon (12)
14 Ezzard Charles (17)
13 Bob Fitzsimmons (20)
12 Benny Leonard (16)
11 Charley Burley (10)
10 Muhammad Ali (11)
9 Harry Grebb (18.)
8 Jimmy Wilde (7)
7 Sandy Saddler (5)
6 Willie Pep (6)
5 Mickey Walker (14)
4 Archie Moore (8.)
3 Roberto Duran (3)
2 Henry Armstrong (2)
1 Ray Robinson (1)

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Old 10-09-2007, 04:48 PM   #2
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De La Hoya is a tad high is my first impression.
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:50 PM   #3
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Delahoyas above Hagler and Hearns!

I love it, Jacks gonna fist **** his computer screen when he sees this
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:51 PM   #4
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Not to be Biased PAc should be in the 80's at least ..this man was a Flyweight champ and a destroyer at Super Bantam. Al his fights now are just icin on the cake..Give him credit at the lower weight just like you do Wilde.

Speaking of Wilde, Pancho Villa should be higher dude.( at least top 20 although below Wilde)..He punished Wilde and died at 22 or something and theres a controversy attached to it...Ill expand if you want me to
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De La Hoya is a tad high is my first impression.
Like 7 spots ahead of Joe Louis
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De La Hoya is a tad high is my first impression.
Totally Agreed!
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Having Lennox at 75 is disgraceful.

Mayweather above Jones??? You're sick!
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Greb is too low imo
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Old 10-09-2007, 04:56 PM   #9
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Trinidad above Marciano, Lewis,Tyson and Spinks above Holyfield and Holmes
are you crazy.
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Greb is too low imo
The more I think of Greb the more I think hes overrated. Although I think Duran is a bit high...Top 10 for sure but between 5-8
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DLH at 21 is the biggest issue, he's not even top 75.
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IMO id put Trinidad above Floyd Mayweather, Trinidad has done more in hes career than Floyd has up until this point if you ask me, the two losses hurt him bad because of the domination but hey its just my opinion. I think an undefeated Vargas and DLH beat any 2 names on Mayweathers list exculding the promoter he just fought.
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IMO id put Trinidad above Floyd Mayweather, Trinidad has done more in hes career than Floyd has up until this point if you ask me, the two losses hurt him bad because of the domination but hey its just my opinion. I think an undefeated Vargas and DLH beat any 2 names on Mayweathers list exculding the promoter he just fought.
Agreed but he lost to DLH
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IMO id put Trinidad above Floyd Mayweather, Trinidad has done more in hes career than Floyd has up until this point if you ask me, the two losses hurt him bad because of the domination but hey its just my opinion. I think an undefeated Vargas and DLH beat any 2 names on Mayweathers list exculding the promoter he just fought.
Vargas and Chico are equivalent wins.
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Lists like this are extremely hard to make. For the most part it is pretty good. Ones that I take issue with are:

-Pacquiao being so low. He's already won titles in 3 divisions, is the top contender in a 4th, ranging from 112 to 130. He's more accomplished than guys such as Brian Mitchell, Winky Wright, and Aaron Pryor (who wasted too much of his talent)

-De La Hoya being so high. Oscar's a terrific fighter, but #21? Ahead of guys like Joe Louis, Tommy Hearns, and Marvin Hagler?

-Moore being 10 spots ahead of Charles. Moore obviously had more fights and more wins, but Charles went 3-0 against him at LHW (where Charles had a staggering resume in a relatively small # of fights) when they were in/near their primes, and also Charles was a very good HW champion as well.


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Originally Posted by TBooze
Now I know this should be probably left in the classic forum, but I always be criticized for a lack of a Contemporary view, so there is a positive bias here for modern fighters; have I got it right this time? (I think I might know the answer!)


The numbers in brackets were places I placed my top 35 of all-time in April 2005

100 Manny Paciquao
99 Harry Wills
98 Kid McCoy
97 Jeff Fenech
96 Carlos Ortiz
95 Jimmy McLarnin
94 Tony Zale
93 Ted ‘Kid’ Lewis
92 Freddie Welsh
91 Dick Tiger
90 Jeff Chandler
89 James J Corbett
88 Brian Mitchell
87 Wilfredo Gomez
86 Kid Chocolate
85 Marcel Cerdan
84 Joe Frazier
83 Winky Wright
82 Kostya Tszyu
81 Jimmy Carruthers
80 Jack McAuliffe
79 Rinty Monaghan
78 Nicolino Loche
77 Mike Tyson
76 Bob Montgomery
75 Lennox Lewis
74 Brian Mitchell
73 Aaron Pryor
72 Nino Benvenuti
71 Jim Driscoll
70 Salvador Sanchez
69 Mike McCallum
68 Jack Dempsey
67 Flash Elorde
66 Wilfred Benitez
65 Rocky Marciano
64 Felix Trinidad
63 Abe Attell
62 Antonio Cervantes
61 James J Jeffries
60 Al Brown
59 Eusebio Pedroza
58 Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil)
57 Evander Holyfield
56 Bob Foster
55 Larry Holmes
54 Stanley Ketchel (19)
53 Michael Spinks
52 Azumah Nelson
51 Ruben Olivares (32)
50 Jose Napoles
49 Pascual Perez
48 Manuel Ortiz
47 Ike Williams
46 Roy Jones Jr (35)
45 Maxie Rosenbloom
44 Jack Johnson
43 Floyd Mayweather Jr
42 Tony Canzoneri
41 George Foreman (34)
40 Eder Jofre (26)
39 Johnny Kilbane
38 Kid Gavilan
37 Tommy Loughran
36 Ricardo Lopez
35 Alexis Arguello (24)
34 Bernard Hopkins
33 Carlos Zarate (25)
32 (Barbados) Joe Walcott
31 Tommy Hearns (31)
30 Marvin Hagler (30)
29 Pancho Villa (21)
28 Emile Griffith
27 Joe Louis (29)
26 Joe Gans (33)
25 Gene Tunney (28.)
24 Terry McGovern
23 George Dixon (27)
22 Georges Carpentier (4)
21 Oscar de la Hoya (22)
20 Pernell Whitaker (23)
19 Julio Cesar Chavez (15)
18 Sammy Langford (9)
17 Barney Ross
16 Ray Leonard (13)
15 Carlos Monzon (12)
14 Ezzard Charles (17)
13 Bob Fitzsimmons (20)
12 Benny Leonard (16)
11 Charley Burley (10)
10 Muhammad Ali (11)
9 Harry Grebb (18.)
8 Jimmy Wilde (7)
7 Sandy Saddler (5)
6 Willie Pep (6)
5 Mickey Walker (14)
4 Archie Moore (8.)
3 Roberto Duran (3)
2 Henry Armstrong (2)
1 Ray Robinson (1)
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