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Old 10-09-2007, 06:46 PM   #31
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Now I know this should be probably left in the classic forum, but I always be criticized for a lack of a Contemporary view, so there is a positive bias here for modern fighters; have I got it right this time? (I think I might know the answer!)


The numbers in brackets were places I placed my top 35 of all-time in April 2005

100 Manny Paciquao
99 Harry Wills
98 Kid McCoy
97 Jeff Fenech
96 Carlos Ortiz
95 Jimmy McLarnin
94 Tony Zale
93 Ted ‘Kid’ Lewis
92 Freddie Welsh
91 Dick Tiger
90 Jeff Chandler
89 James J Corbett
88 BRIAN MITCHELL
87 Wilfredo Gomez
86 Kid Chocolate
85 Marcel Cerdan
84 Joe Frazier
83 Winky Wright
82 Kostya Tszyu
81 Jimmy Carruthers
80 Jack McAuliffe
79 Rinty Monaghan
78 Nicolino Loche
77 Mike Tyson
76 Bob Montgomery
75 Lennox Lewis
74 BRIAN MITCHELL
73 Aaron Pryor
72 Nino Benvenuti
71 Jim Driscoll
70 Salvador Sanchez
69 Mike McCallum
68 Jack Dempsey
67 Flash Elorde
66 Wilfred Benitez
65 Rocky Marciano
64 Felix Trinidad
63 Abe Attell
62 Antonio Cervantes
61 James J Jeffries
60 Al Brown
59 Eusebio Pedroza
58 Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil)
57 Evander Holyfield
56 Bob Foster
55 Larry Holmes
54 Stanley Ketchel (19)
53 Michael Spinks
52 Azumah Nelson
51 Ruben Olivares (32)
50 Jose Napoles
49 Pascual Perez
48 Manuel Ortiz
47 Ike Williams
46 Roy Jones Jr (35)
45 Maxie Rosenbloom
44 Jack Johnson
43 Floyd Mayweather Jr
42 Tony Canzoneri
41 George Foreman (34)
40 Eder Jofre (26)
39 Johnny Kilbane
38 Kid Gavilan
37 Tommy Loughran
36 Ricardo Lopez
35 Alexis Arguello (24)
34 Bernard Hopkins
33 Carlos Zarate (25)
32 (Barbados) Joe Walcott
31 Tommy Hearns (31)
30 Marvin Hagler (30)
29 Pancho Villa (21)
28 Emile Griffith
27 Joe Louis (29)
26 Joe Gans (33)
25 Gene Tunney (28.)
24 Terry McGovern
23 George Dixon (27)
22 Georges Carpentier (4)
21 Oscar de la Hoya (22)
20 Pernell Whitaker (23)
19 Julio Cesar Chavez (15)
18 Sammy Langford (9)
17 Barney Ross
16 Ray Leonard (13)
15 Carlos Monzon (12)
14 Ezzard Charles (17)
13 Bob Fitzsimmons (20)
12 Benny Leonard (16)
11 Charley Burley (10)
10 Muhammad Ali (11)
9 Harry Grebb (18.)
8 Jimmy Wilde (7)
7 Sandy Saddler (5)
6 Willie Pep (6)
5 Mickey Walker (14)
4 Archie Moore (8.)
3 Roberto Duran (3)
2 Henry Armstrong (2)
1 Ray Robinson (1)
You got Brian "The Messiah" Mitchell twice.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:49 PM   #32
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Somehow Barrera and Erik needs a place on this list and thats taking everything into consideration...The bggest omission..wheres Kid Panama??
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:49 PM   #33
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you put de la hoya in the right place
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:57 PM   #34
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If anyone thinks he's justified in putting Holmes and Holyfield and Spinks for that matter above Lewis, then please, please explain it to me.

IMO Lewis should be above Holmes. But you could make the argument for both Spinks and Hollyfield being p4p better simply because they are two weight world champs who stepped out of their comfort zones to win the additional titles.

The counter argument is that it's not Lewis' fault that he is so big.

It's dependant upon criteria.

There are mistakes here of course (Langford and Tiger are far to low for me) but the guys being critical should perhaps post their own top hundreds so we can get a look.

Seems likely that most don't have one because it would be a tough thing to put together.

Here is my top 3:

#1 Robinson
#2 Langford
#3 Armstrong

And that was a proper hard job.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:59 PM   #35
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you put de la hoya in the right place

Do you really think so? I think he is to high. Let's hear your case for Oscar being above Hearns, including your profection for a dream-match at WW.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:59 PM   #36
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You got Brian "The Messiah" Mitchell twice.
Yeah he was that he good, he deserved two mentions...

that should not of been there.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:00 PM   #37
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wheres Kid Panama??

Fair question. Where is Holman Williams is the one i'd be keener to have answered though.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:01 PM   #38
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Yeah he was that he could,m he deserved two mentions...

that should not of been there.
Was bound to happen.

Change it to a top 99.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:02 PM   #39
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Would you shut your stupid ass up? This agenda you have going on is completely ridiculous and makes you look like a dumb WWE loving hick, which you probably are. Now STFU and leave.
Aside from which, he isn't even right.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:02 PM   #40
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Fair question. Where is Holman Williams is the one i'd be keener to have answered though.
This list is starting to have more holes than Sonny Corleone
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:03 PM   #41
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This list is starting to have more holes than Sonny Corleone

NICE analogy, but there are bound to be plenty of fighters left of a list like this.
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Fair question. Where is Holman Williams is the one i'd be keener to have answered though.
His resume is a little weak because he was without doubt avoided.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:05 PM   #43
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DLH at 21 is the biggest issue, he's not even top 75.
Agreed
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:08 PM   #44
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NICE analogy, but there are bound to be plenty of fighters left of a list like this.
Not if you take the time..when you make a good list people should scrutinize the rankings but not so much how many got left off and yeah PAc is 100 wheres erik and Mab?
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:10 PM   #45
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His resume is a little weak because he was without doubt avoided.
3 wins over Burley.

Archie Moore

Burt Lytell

Cocoa Kid [lost the series]

Lloyd Marshall x2

Jack Chase x4

Eddie Booker


I beg to differ sir. These are his best wins and they form a core better than most of the other boys on your list.

In Burley and Booker we have two fighters i'd be happy to set against anyone, ever at WW and MW respectively. The split series with Burley is worth more to me than Ali's series with Joe.

I'd put Marshall near the top of any H2H LHW list.
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