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Old 10-09-2007, 05:11 PM   #1
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Maybe I am overthinking it but there are a lot of matches recently involving Oscar that looks staged.

1) Oscar vs Bhop: I know it hurts to get hit in the liver but damn, it was not that hard... And why was he pounding the ground for 30 secs str8 instead of trying to get up?

2) Oscar vs Mayroga: Mayroga is Iron Chin who got lots of heart. He usually won't quit unless he is KO out cold or reallly busted up.... He was complete aware and refused to get up?

3) Floyd Mayweather vs Oscar: Looks like as if Floyd is purposely winning a round and giving away a round until the 8th and he just took off.

4) Pac vs Barrera: That was a pathetic showing of Pac. I never seen that boy passive. And the score card is bull bc I had Barrera winning at least 4 rounds... Looks like Pac is carrying Barrera or Barrera trying to get the public to demand a rematch....

Maybe I am overthinking it. Any other potential staged matches?
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:21 PM   #2
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The only one that seemed somewhat suspicious was Hopkins-De La Hoya, and even in that one, I find it highly more likely that Oscar simply quit b/c the bigger guy was taking over and getting to him than a pre-arranged outcome. Much has been said about Richardson yelling "body shot", but he says that quite a bit during fights anyway.
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:21 PM   #3
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Oscar/B-hop always made me wonder, not too long after that Hopkins was one of the first to sign with golden boy. Even if it was fixed theres no way in hell Oscar could ever beat Hopkins, and he knew it either way.
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:22 PM   #4
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2) Oscar vs Mayroga: Mayroga is Iron Chin who got lots of heart. He usually won't quit unless he is KO out cold or reallly busted up.... He was complete aware and refused to get up?
Mayorga got up and was stopped on his feet.

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4) Pac vs Barrera: That was a pathetic showing of Pac. I never seen that boy passive. And the score card is bull bc I had Barrera winning at least 4 rounds... Looks like Pac is carrying Barrera or Barrera trying to get the public to demand a rematch....
Why would the public demand a 3rd fight?

Pac already won twice by wide margins, and the rematch was a let-down.
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:26 PM   #5
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Ali-Liston 2 the phantom punch...I have watched it a thousand times and it still reeks to this day, 42 years later..
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:28 PM   #6
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Everett/Escarlera

Whitaker/RamirezI

And of course Lulu Perez/Willie Pep saw Pep banned for the rest of his career from fighting in New York.
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:30 PM   #7
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Gavin Rees versus Lovermore N'Dou seemed fixed to me. Anyone else?
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:35 PM   #8
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Maybe I am overthinking it but there are a lot of matches recently involving Oscar that looks staged.

1) Oscar vs Bhop: I know it hurts to get hit in the liver but damn, it was not that hard... And why was he pounding the ground for 30 secs str8 instead of trying to get up?

2) Oscar vs Mayroga: Mayroga is Iron Chin who got lots of heart. He usually won't quit unless he is KO out cold or reallly busted up.... He was complete aware and refused to get up?

3) Floyd Mayweather vs Oscar: Looks like as if Floyd is purposely winning a round and giving away a round until the 8th and he just took off.

4) Pac vs Barrera: That was a pathetic showing of Pac. I never seen that boy passive. And the score card is bull bc I had Barrera winning at least 4 rounds... Looks like Pac is carrying Barrera or Barrera trying to get the public to demand a rematch....

Maybe I am overthinking it. Any other potential staged matches?
Oscar -Mayorga?? are you ****ing kidding me?? that left hook he knocked him down with was a show stopper, he was lucky to get up from that, how was that fixed?? same with PBF-DLH these fights were far from suspicious.
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Old 10-09-2007, 05:58 PM   #9
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Ali-Liston 2 the phantom punch...I have watched it a thousand times and it still reeks to this day, 42 years later..
I wouldn't say FIXED is the word. But I would say that Liston realized he couldn't win and the fight was out of him. He didn't want to be there. And he gave up.

Hopkins-DLH is another dive example I think. That seemed too WWE for me
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:06 PM   #10
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Pac JMM I. If there ever was a fix, it was that one. 115-110 for two score cards and then a 'scoring error' by a judge for the draw?
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:22 PM   #11
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Golota/Ruiz. Golota knocked Ruiz down twice, got another point deduction when Ruiz pulled some illegal move, and landed more punches - and yet, somehow, he "lost" the decision!
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:56 PM   #12
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and landed more punches - and yet, somehow, he "lost" the decision!

Say a fighter lands 15 more punches in 5 rounds that he won and the other fighter lands just 5 more in 7 rounds that he won.


More rounds won = Win


1 big round doesn't mean shit
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:58 PM   #13
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Gavin Rees versus Lovermore N'Dou seemed fixed to me. Anyone else?


Gavin Rees never fought Lovemore Ndou.

Lennox Lewis-Evander Holyfield I should of never been a draw and Steve Forbes-Demetrius Hopkins was also a judging robbery.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:07 PM   #14
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Surprised nobody has mentioned that Tito had already had Mayorga for breakfast before he fought Oscar. But, regardless, that hook was beautiful and is knocking anyone down, including Mayorga. Pac-Mab 2 was in no way staged, and no way the public has an outcry for a rematch. Floyd vs. Oscar was to me another case of Oscar fading down the stretch, with the exception of Vargas, he's done that quite a bit.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:16 PM   #15
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