Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating?

JonOli · 04-05-2010, 09:08 PM

Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating?

Ring Magazine Current list

1. Manny Pacquiao

2. Floyd Mayweather Jr

3. Shane Mosley

4. Juan Manuel Marquez

5. Nonito Donaire

6. Bernard Hopkins

7. Miguel Cotto

8. Chad Dawson

9. Paul Williams

10. Celestino Caballero

kosaros · 04-05-2010, 09:10 PM

Top 10 is pushing it, could get in the top 15 though IMO.

The Ring's rankings are terrible

hagman1989 · 04-05-2010, 09:10 PM

i voted no because you didnt dictate how low the list would go therfore i went for would he replace any of the current top 10

top 25 maybe top 40 for sure

JonOli · 04-05-2010, 09:12 PM

Hopkins should be shot for his last performance let alone anything else - he wasn't very good against Enrique Ornelas either.

BIG WORM · 04-05-2010, 09:14 PM

nooooooooooo

AndrewFFC · 04-05-2010, 09:45 PM

The ring overrates north american fighters hugely. To not see even one european fighter there where Paul Williams gets a place after a razor thin win.

Guys like Marquez and Hopkins are more in their position due to reputation as opposed to recent performances.

kosaros · 04-05-2010, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrewFFC

The ring overrates north american fighters hugely. To not see even one european fighter there is stupid whereas Paul Williams gets a place after a razor thin win.

I actually have Williams 4th in my list. Donaire, Cotto, Cab and Hopkins are the fighters that I think they are overrating.

happydrinks · 04-05-2010, 10:23 PM

I'd have him in that list instead of Dawson.

Mandanda · 04-05-2010, 10:50 PM

He be in and around the top 10-12 P4P. P4P should be for guys who are frequently fighting the best in and around there weight divisions or at least fighting as there's a few in that list who only fight once a year if that.

The Ring makes some strange choices but Haye's not far of P4P Top 10 imo.

TFFP · 04-05-2010, 11:11 PM

Looking at that list you have to say yes...

Badgeronimous · 04-05-2010, 11:44 PM

If you put Haye in there, you have to have the Klits in there too.

I really like Haye, but you can't rate him above either of the K brothers until he beats one.

KCD · 04-06-2010, 01:48 AM

No.

But that ring list is one of the worst ive seen.

I dont think Haye can be included if Wlad isnt there.

s23041983 · 04-06-2010, 02:13 AM

who the **** voted yes on this?

... but then again, nonito donaire is in there so maybe he is worthy of that piece of shit list!

Grant1 · 04-06-2010, 04:12 AM

In my list, no.

If we are taking the ring list from above, probably yes.

That's awful.

ryanm8655 · 04-06-2010, 04:23 AM

Not unless Wlad is too.

But why Hopkins and Cotto are on that list I don't know, you may as well keep Hatton on there if Cotto stays.

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JonOli Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,184 vCash: 75	Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? *Ring Magazine Current list* 1. Manny Pacquiao 2. Floyd Mayweather Jr 3. Shane Mosley 4. Juan Manuel Marquez *5. Nonito Donaire* *6. Bernard Hopkins* *7. Miguel Cotto* *8. Chad Dawson* *9. Paul Williams* *10. Celestino Caballero*
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kosaros Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: UK Posts: 13,330 vCash: 999	Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? Top 10 is pushing it, could get in the top 15 though IMO. The Ring's rankings are terrible
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hagman1989 the boxing site , try it ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: england Posts: 4,148 vCash: 75	Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? i voted no because you didnt dictate how low the list would go therfore i went for would he replace any of the current top 10 top 25 maybe top 40 for sure
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JonOli Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 8,184 vCash: 75	Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? Hopkins should be shot for his last performance let alone anything else - he wasn't very good against Enrique Ornelas either.
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BIG WORM Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,784 vCash: 6785	Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? nooooooooooo
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AndrewFFC Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Kings Cross Posts: 1,253 vCash: 1000	Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? The ring overrates north american fighters hugely. To not see even one european fighter there where Paul Williams gets a place after a razor thin win. Guys like Marquez and Hopkins are more in their position due to reputation as opposed to recent performances.
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happydrinks @elPrincipeFeliz ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,590 vCash: 666	Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? I'd have him in that list instead of Dawson.
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Mandanda British Champion 2010 East Side VIP Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: South London: The Gaza Posts: 12,289 vCash: 1000	Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? He be in and around the top 10-12 P4P. P4P should be for guys who are frequently fighting the best in and around there weight divisions or at least fighting as there's a few in that list who only fight once a year if that. The Ring makes some strange choices but Haye's not far of P4P Top 10 imo.
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TFFP The Eskimo East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Reykjavík Posts: 22,556 vCash: 2500	Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? Looking at that list you have to say yes...
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Badgeronimous Will you stand? ESB Jr Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 249 vCash: 1000	Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? If you put Haye in there, you have to have the Klits in there too. I really like Haye, but you can't rate him above either of the K brothers until he beats one.
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KCD All aboard. ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Westhoughton, Lancashire Posts: 4,058 vCash: 1000	Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? No. But that ring list is one of the worst ive seen. I dont think Haye can be included if Wlad isnt there.
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s23041983 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Liverpool Posts: 2,589 vCash: 75	Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? who the **** voted yes on this? ... but then again, nonito donaire is in there so maybe he is worthy of that piece of shit list!
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Grant1 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: S Wales Posts: 5,923 vCash: 1421	Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? In my list, no. If we are taking the ring list from above, probably yes. That's awful.
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ryanm8655 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,440 vCash: 3731	Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating? Not unless Wlad is too. But why Hopkins and Cotto are on that list I don't know, you may as well keep Hatton on there if Cotto stays.
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