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Old 04-06-2010, 04:29 AM   #16
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Boxrec have him at 20, just below Hatton.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:09 AM   #17
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i think so, considering what he has achieved in just 24 fights
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:10 AM   #18
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Heavyweights always get a raw deal in the P4P lists.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:15 AM   #19
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No. No way near worthy of a p4p ranking. He is an holder of a verion of a world title but has not beaten the best two guys in his division.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:23 AM   #20
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He should be top 10. He was unified at cruiser and a legit champ at HW. The second cruiser to have done it so it clearly isn't easy to do.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:25 AM   #21
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As an Englishman, I find the Haye hype a bit embarrassing.
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Old 04-06-2010, 07:26 AM   #22
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he is 100% in the top 20, along with the brothers.
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:03 AM   #23
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him and wlad should be in there instead of hopkins and cotto
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:04 AM   #24
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Default Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating?

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If you put Haye in there, you have to have the Klits in there too.

I really like Haye, but you can't rate him above either of the K brothers until he beats one.
Bullshit he's the definition of p4p going up in weight. They are two giants smashing up old little people
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Old 04-06-2010, 08:20 AM   #25
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Default Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating?

Hopkins should be removed from that list, he fought Pavlik in 2008, hasnt done a thing worthy of mention since then.

I think it's a bit early to be talking about putting Haye in there too. Valuev and Ruiz aren't that hot now are they.
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:01 AM   #26
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Bullshit he's the definition of p4p going up in weight. They are two giants smashing up old little people
I agree, how many ex cruiserweight win a heavyweight title?? Its not like moving up in the lighter weight classes where the difference is a few pounds.
He was also undisputed champ at cruiser and has won his titles on the road, which counts for alot imo.

I'd put him in my top 10.
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:14 AM   #27
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If you put Haye in there, you have to have the Klits in there too.

I really like Haye, but you can't rate him above either of the K brothers until he beats one.

Except that you can, because you cant rate huge HW's like the K's. So much of their success is down to size, someone like Haye has been at CW, and shown that as a smaller man he can still walk the walk at HW.
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:23 AM   #28
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There's no way he should be in ahead of Wladimir Klitschko, who I think has a good claim to a top 10 spot now. Seriously, you can knock the heavyweight division but alot of others are weak too and he keeps manhandling ring rated top 10 guys. If Nonito Donaires done enough to be the 5th best fighter on planet Earth (lol at that one) I don't see how Wlad hasn't. Although the inclusion of either does say something about this era when it comes to quality of talent.
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:33 AM   #29
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Default Re: Is Haye now worthy of a P4P rating?

Yes, unified cruiser then went up to heavy and has won a world title too. That too me is what pound4pound means.

P4P he is in the top 10.

IMO that list is poor.
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Old 04-06-2010, 09:58 AM   #30
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Yes, he should along with Wlad. The ring list is a joke, Cotto, Hopkins and mosley shouldnt be in that list.
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