Witter Vs Harris on the 7th September

[stake501]

Originally Posted by scurlaruntings

This may be true but as an ATG at 130 Hameds status is not disputed.He is one of the best ever at that weight.Arguably his also the biggest hitter ever at 130.

I meant 122-126

but I agree the above applies for 126.

He was a dick, and didnt fulfil his potential though

Witter has the most explosive punch at 140 by far and could put many 147 to shame. Skill wise he is decent and he's got that dangerous ingle thing going on. If he beats harris which i think he will then he could potentially dominate the light-welter division. Obviously there are fighters out there who could pinch a decision against him such as malianagi but he could go on to biuld a really good top level carrer.

["TKO"]

He better do it quick then, I believe he's 33 as it is!

Originally Posted by TKO

He better do it quick then, I believe he's 33 as it is!

The light welter division is light on real talent at the moment due to the populariyty and money in the welter so it will either be a second level boxer playground or get ruled by someone. Witter has the chance to do it, that dosnt mean that he will but he has it in him beat the rest out there.

["TKO"]

Yeah it's a possibility, though the likes of Mbaye and Malignaggi might have something to say about it (I don't like any of their chances against Hatton, but assume he may soon make a step back to welter in search of bigger fish). Witter's meet with Vivian Harris in September will tell us a lot more about where he stands in the scheme of things. Harris is a dangerman, shocking loss to Maussa aside.

Originally Posted by TKO

Yeah it's a possibility, though the likes of Mbaye and Malignaggi might have something to say about it (I don't like any of their chances against Hatton, but assume he may soon make a step back to welter in search of bigger fish). Witter's meet with Vivian Harris in September will tell us a lot more about where he stands in the scheme of things. Harris is a dangerman, shocking loss to Maussa aside.

Harris seemed to be very highly rated before that loss but i do rate witter. The winner of that could dominate for a time. Mbaye is not top level and malignagi has a little punch rate, mainly down to his hand troubles admittedly but it still is a weakness.

[scurlaruntings]

Originally Posted by stake501

I meant 122-126

but I agree the above applies for 126.

He was a dick, and didnt fulfil his potential though

Personality asidxe he achieved much and way more than most.But we expected more because he was so talented so i guess its a moot point.

[brown bomber]

Forests KO of Harris was the most atrocious KO i have ever seen.

[Amsterdam]

Originally Posted by scurlaruntings

This may be true but as an ATG at 130 Hameds status is not disputed.He is one of the best ever at that weight.Arguably his also the biggest hitter ever at 130.

And you have the nerve to call me ignorant!

[Amsterdam]

Originally Posted by Strike

Witters power is awesome. He did not sit on his shots before the loss to Judah, but when he was a very young pro people were talking about his power and wondering why he wasn't showing it in the ring.
After Judah he went back and decided to sit down on his shots, look for power as his dancing, Graham impression had not cut it against the best.

He then won 15 KO victories in a row. But more impressively he had N'Dou all over the place and down twice in the first 2 rounds. He bust his hand and the fight ended up going the distance. But look at how he has N'Dou down and almost out a guy who ate what Cotto had and never really looked like being stopped.

Witter savaged Battaglia and had Corley in huge trouble with one glancing shot in the 6th round (if I remember it right). When he connects you are in trouble.

I never claimed he was featherfisted, I just claim that he was not a very "big" hitter. You can't use throwing N'dou around, when Malignaggi dropped N'dou and buzzed him several times, N'dou is obviously effected by speedy delivery, which Naggi and Witter have and what Cotto doesn't as much. Cotto mauls you.

Anyway, he *could* stop Harris, but I don't think he'd have a gameplan where trying to stop him is the motive(which he'd need to go all out on Harris), so I'd take him by UD.

[scurlaruntings]

Originally Posted by Amsterdam

And you have the nerve to call me ignorant!

Nope now your just stupid.So tell me name a bigger puncher at featherweight (note i did say arguably) And wether you like it or not Naz is an ATG at 130.His certainly not up there with the Willie Peps but his not far off that list.

[Jack Dempsey]

Wheres it taking place?, anyone going??

[hitman_hatton1]

i think witter beats harris.

harris looked awful against lazcano last time out.

castillo whipped lazcano. remember him.

concerning the hatton/hamed argument.

i think it's closing up all the time.

naz made 15 title defences and beat some good fighters.

hatton has beaten a clutch of good names and 2 top notchers.

hamed still takes it for now.

[hitman_hatton1]

Originally Posted by scurlaruntings

Nope now your just stupid.So tell me name a bigger puncher at featherweight (note i did say arguably) And wether you like it or not Naz is an ATG at 130.His certainly not up there with the Willie Peps but his not far off that list.

i'd put naz in the very good bracket meself.

he fell short against barrera.

we all knew barrera would be his biggest fight.

a little like we all knew tszyu would be hatton's biggest fight.

he fell short of greatness in the end.

[hitman_hatton1]

Originally Posted by Amsterdam

So where is his legacy superior to Hatton's? You can list out every titlist and former titlist that Hamed beat, but every single one of them were no better than a Luis Collazo level fighter, and I am talking about Kevin Kelly, Smoke Gainer and the rest. Hamed never faced JMM, Morales and others, he faced Barrera and lost a one sided embarassing decision, JMM would have dished him out a brutally one sided stoppage loss in his current form, much less a prime JMM and Morales would have beat him silly also.

yeah that's a good point u make.

hamed for all his wins, never did beat a real top notch opponent like hatton has done.

i still give the edge to naz cos of the amount of solid top 10 contenders he beat.

but hatton is catching fast i think.