Top 20 Lightheavyweights Of All Time

Boro chris · 10-10-2007, 12:18 PM

Please educate this wretched sinner.

Rattler · 10-10-2007, 12:31 PM

Here's some names to begin with...

Ezzard Charles
Sam Langford
Michael Spinks
Billy Conn
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Harry Greb
Tommy Loughran
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Mathhew Saad Muhammad

janitor · 10-10-2007, 12:40 PM

Here is my top 20. While it has its eccentricities it is fair to say that anybody on this list is worth learing more about.

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Gene Tunney
4. Archie Moore
5. Harry Grebb
6. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Billy Conn
8. Jack Dillon
9. Tommy Loughran
10. Michael Spinks
11. Kid Norfolk
12. Joe Choynski
13. Harold Johnson
14. Tommy Gibbons
15. Maxie Rosenbloom
16. John Henry Lewis
17. Jimmy Bivins
18. Bob Foster
19. Jack Delaney
20. Tiger Jack Fox

Senya13 · 10-10-2007, 12:42 PM

Ring magazine, September 2002

1. EZZARD CHARLES
2. ARCHIE MOORE
3. MICHAEL SPINKS
4. TOMMY LOUGHRAN
5. BOB FOSTER
6. JIMMY BIVINS
7. HAROLD JOHNSON
8. MAXIE ROSENBLOOM
9. BILLY CONN
10. MATTHEW SAAD MUHAMMAD
11. VICTOR GALINDEZ
12. JACK DILLON
13. BATTLING LEVINSKY
14. JOEY MAXIM
15. DWIGHT MUHAMMAD QAWI
16. JOHN HENRY LEWIS
17. BOB FITZSIMMONS
18. GENE TUNNEY
19. VIRGIL HILL
20. MARVIN JOHNSON

dmt · 10-10-2007, 12:53 PM

something like:

1. Ezzard Charles
2. Sam Langford
3. Archie Moore
4. Gene Tunney
5. Billy Conn
6. Michael Spinks
7. Bob Foster
8. Tommy Loughran
9. Roy Jones Jr
10. Harold Johnson
11. Tommy Gibbons
12. John Henry Lewis
13. Jimmy Bivins
14. Victor Galindez
15. Dwight Muhammad Qawi

janitor · 10-10-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boro chris

Please educate this wretched sinner.

Also if you would like to know more about some of the names on my list or others feel free to speak up.

mcvey · 10-10-2007, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janitor

Here is my top 20. While it has its eccentricities it is fair to say that anybody on this list is worth learing more about.

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Gene Tunney
4. Archie Moore
5. Harry Grebb
6. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Billy Conn
8. Jack Dillon
9. Tommy Loughran
10. Michael Spinks
11. Kid Norfolk
12. Joe Choynski
13. Harold Johnson
14. Tommy Gibbons
15. Maxie Rosenbloom
16. John Henry Lewis
17. Jimmy Bivins
18. Bob Foster
19. Jack Delaney
20. Tiger Jack Fox

Good list Janitor!.

bumdujour · 10-10-2007, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janitor

Here is my top 20. While it has its eccentricities it is fair to say that anybody on this list is worth learing more about.

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Gene Tunney
4. Archie Moore
5. Harry Grebb
6. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Billy Conn
8. Jack Dillon
9. Tommy Loughran
10. Michael Spinks
11. Kid Norfolk
12. Joe Choynski
13. Harold Johnson
14. Tommy Gibbons
15. Maxie Rosenbloom
16. John Henry Lewis
17. Jimmy Bivins
18. Bob Foster
19. Jack Delaney
20. Tiger Jack Fox

hey, where is Dariusz michalchewski???

mcvey · 10-10-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mcvey

Good list Janitor!.

In no order Moore
Charles
Tunney
Langford
Loughran
Conn
Foster
Dillon
Greb
Spinks
Delaney
Choynsky
Lewis
Johnson
Berlenbach
Bivins
Norfolk
Rosenbloom
Fox
Maxim

On the bench,Slattery,Marshall,Saad Muhammad.

Quick Cash · 10-10-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by janitor

Also if you would like to know more about some of the names on my list or others feel free to speak up.

I think I'll just take you up on that since I don't have time to do extensive research.

Langford and Fitzsimmons, particularly, are of great interest to me. I try to judge fighters through whatever footage I can get of them. So obviously, I'm grossly lacking in my knowledge of these two old-time pugilists.

I'm curious do you have Fitzsimmons placed sixth in light heavyweight and then somewhere else in heavyweight and middleweight, or do you rank him as a light heavyweight with consideration already for his stints at other weights?

dmille · 10-10-2007, 03:01 PM

Tommy Loughran
Maxie Rosenbloom
John Henry Lewis
Billy Conn
Archie Moore
Bob Foster
Victor Galindez
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Michael Spinks
Roy Jones Jr.

Honorable mention: Paul Berlenbach, Jimmy Bivins, Jack Delaney, Sam Langford, Yaqui Lopez, Lloyd Marshall, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Kid Norfolk, Jimmy Slattery, Young Stribling

Rattler · 10-10-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bumdujour

hey, where is Dariusz michalchewski???

The judges haven't gotten to janitor yet.

Boro chris · 10-10-2007, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janitor

Here is my top 20. While it has its eccentricities it is fair to say that anybody on this list is worth learing more about.

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Gene Tunney
4. Archie Moore
5. Harry Grebb
6. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Billy Conn
8. Jack Dillon
9. Tommy Loughran
10. Michael Spinks
11. Kid Norfolk
12. Joe Choynski
13. Harold Johnson
14. Tommy Gibbons
15. Maxie Rosenbloom
16. John Henry Lewis
17. Jimmy Bivins
18. Bob Foster
19. Jack Delaney
20. Tiger Jack Fox

Foster only at 18?

Also, in the interests of partizan bias where would people have John Conteh rated. Somewhat of an underachiever or so I'm led to believe.

Luigi1985 · 10-10-2007, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by janitor

Here is my top 20. While it has its eccentricities it is fair to say that anybody on this list is worth learing more about.

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Gene Tunney
4. Archie Moore
5. Harry Grebb
6. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Billy Conn
8. Jack Dillon
9. Tommy Loughran
10. Michael Spinks
11. Kid Norfolk
12. Joe Choynski
13. Harold Johnson
14. Tommy Gibbons
15. Maxie Rosenbloom
16. John Henry Lewis
17. Jimmy Bivins
18. Bob Foster
19. Jack Delaney
20. Tiger Jack Fox

Great list!

Jear · 10-10-2007, 05:24 PM

I really think Eddie Mustapha Muhammad is frequently overlooked as an ATG at light heavy.

And from a head to head point of view so too is Michael Moorer.

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Rattler R.I.P. - George Jones East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Grand Tour Posts: 34,250 vCash: 75	Re: Top 20 Lightheavyweights Of All Time Here's some names to begin with... Ezzard Charles Sam Langford Michael Spinks Billy Conn Archie Moore Gene Tunney Harry Greb Tommy Loughran Dwight Muhammad Qawi Mathhew Saad Muhammad
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janitor P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19,051 vCash: 1000	Re: Top 20 Lightheavyweights Of All Time Here is my top 20. While it has its eccentricities it is fair to say that anybody on this list is worth learing more about. 1. Sam Langford 2. Ezzard Charles 3. Gene Tunney 4. Archie Moore 5. Harry Grebb 6. Bob Fitzsimmons 7. Billy Conn 8. Jack Dillon 9. Tommy Loughran 10. Michael Spinks 11. Kid Norfolk 12. Joe Choynski 13. Harold Johnson 14. Tommy Gibbons 15. Maxie Rosenbloom 16. John Henry Lewis 17. Jimmy Bivins 18. Bob Foster 19. Jack Delaney 20. Tiger Jack Fox
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Senya13 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Russia Posts: 3,300 vCash: 1210	Re: Top 20 Lightheavyweights Of All Time Ring magazine, September 2002 1. EZZARD CHARLES 2. ARCHIE MOORE 3. MICHAEL SPINKS 4. TOMMY LOUGHRAN 5. BOB FOSTER 6. JIMMY BIVINS 7. HAROLD JOHNSON 8. MAXIE ROSENBLOOM 9. BILLY CONN 10. MATTHEW SAAD MUHAMMAD 11. VICTOR GALINDEZ 12. JACK DILLON 13. BATTLING LEVINSKY 14. JOEY MAXIM 15. DWIGHT MUHAMMAD QAWI 16. JOHN HENRY LEWIS 17. BOB FITZSIMMONS 18. GENE TUNNEY 19. VIRGIL HILL 20. MARVIN JOHNSON
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dmt Hardest hitting hw ever East Side Guru Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 6,036 vCash: 1000	Re: Top 20 Lightheavyweights Of All Time something like: 1. Ezzard Charles 2. Sam Langford 3. Archie Moore 4. Gene Tunney 5. Billy Conn 6. Michael Spinks 7. Bob Foster 8. Tommy Loughran 9. Roy Jones Jr 10. Harold Johnson 11. Tommy Gibbons 12. John Henry Lewis 13. Jimmy Bivins 14. Victor Galindez 15. Dwight Muhammad Qawi
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dmille Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 1,907 vCash: 1000	Re: Top 20 Lightheavyweights Of All Time Tommy Loughran Maxie Rosenbloom John Henry Lewis Billy Conn Archie Moore Bob Foster Victor Galindez Matthew Saad Muhammad Michael Spinks Roy Jones Jr. Honorable mention: Paul Berlenbach, Jimmy Bivins, Jack Delaney, Sam Langford, Yaqui Lopez, Lloyd Marshall, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Kid Norfolk, Jimmy Slattery, Young Stribling
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Jear Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 777 vCash: 1000	Re: Top 20 Lightheavyweights Of All Time I really think Eddie Mustapha Muhammad is frequently overlooked as an ATG at light heavy. And from a head to head point of view so too is Michael Moorer.
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