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Old 10-10-2007, 12:18 PM   #1
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:31 PM   #2
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Here's some names to begin with...

Ezzard Charles
Sam Langford
Michael Spinks
Billy Conn
Archie Moore
Gene Tunney
Harry Greb
Tommy Loughran
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
Mathhew Saad Muhammad
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:40 PM   #3
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Here is my top 20. While it has its eccentricities it is fair to say that anybody on this list is worth learing more about.

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Gene Tunney
4. Archie Moore

5. Harry Grebb
6. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Billy Conn

8. Jack Dillon
9. Tommy Loughran

10. Michael Spinks
11. Kid Norfolk
12. Joe Choynski

13. Harold Johnson
14. Tommy Gibbons

15. Maxie Rosenbloom
16. John Henry Lewis
17. Jimmy Bivins
18. Bob Foster
19. Jack Delaney
20. Tiger Jack Fox
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:42 PM   #4
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Ring magazine, September 2002

1. EZZARD CHARLES
2. ARCHIE MOORE
3. MICHAEL SPINKS
4. TOMMY LOUGHRAN
5. BOB FOSTER
6. JIMMY BIVINS
7. HAROLD JOHNSON
8. MAXIE ROSENBLOOM
9. BILLY CONN
10. MATTHEW SAAD MUHAMMAD
11. VICTOR GALINDEZ
12. JACK DILLON
13. BATTLING LEVINSKY
14. JOEY MAXIM
15. DWIGHT MUHAMMAD QAWI
16. JOHN HENRY LEWIS
17. BOB FITZSIMMONS
18. GENE TUNNEY
19. VIRGIL HILL
20. MARVIN JOHNSON
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:53 PM   #5
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something like:

1. Ezzard Charles
2. Sam Langford
3. Archie Moore
4. Gene Tunney
5. Billy Conn
6. Michael Spinks
7. Bob Foster
8. Tommy Loughran
9. Roy Jones Jr
10. Harold Johnson
11. Tommy Gibbons
12. John Henry Lewis
13. Jimmy Bivins
14. Victor Galindez
15. Dwight Muhammad Qawi
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:59 PM   #6
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Please educate this wretched sinner.
Also if you would like to know more about some of the names on my list or others feel free to speak up.
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Old 10-10-2007, 02:05 PM   #7
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Here is my top 20. While it has its eccentricities it is fair to say that anybody on this list is worth learing more about.

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Gene Tunney
4. Archie Moore

5. Harry Grebb
6. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Billy Conn

8. Jack Dillon
9. Tommy Loughran

10. Michael Spinks
11. Kid Norfolk
12. Joe Choynski

13. Harold Johnson
14. Tommy Gibbons

15. Maxie Rosenbloom
16. John Henry Lewis
17. Jimmy Bivins
18. Bob Foster
19. Jack Delaney
20. Tiger Jack Fox
Good list Janitor!.
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Old 10-10-2007, 02:16 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by janitor
Here is my top 20. While it has its eccentricities it is fair to say that anybody on this list is worth learing more about.

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Gene Tunney
4. Archie Moore

5. Harry Grebb
6. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Billy Conn

8. Jack Dillon
9. Tommy Loughran

10. Michael Spinks
11. Kid Norfolk
12. Joe Choynski

13. Harold Johnson
14. Tommy Gibbons

15. Maxie Rosenbloom
16. John Henry Lewis
17. Jimmy Bivins
18. Bob Foster
19. Jack Delaney
20. Tiger Jack Fox
hey, where is Dariusz michalchewski???
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Old 10-10-2007, 02:30 PM   #9
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Good list Janitor!.
In no order Moore
Charles
Tunney
Langford
Loughran
Conn
Foster
Dillon
Greb
Spinks
Delaney
Choynsky
Lewis
Johnson
Berlenbach
Bivins
Norfolk
Rosenbloom
Fox
Maxim

On the bench,Slattery,Marshall,Saad Muhammad.
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Old 10-10-2007, 02:39 PM   #10
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Also if you would like to know more about some of the names on my list or others feel free to speak up.
I think I'll just take you up on that since I don't have time to do extensive research.

Langford and Fitzsimmons, particularly, are of great interest to me. I try to judge fighters through whatever footage I can get of them. So obviously, I'm grossly lacking in my knowledge of these two old-time pugilists.

I'm curious do you have Fitzsimmons placed sixth in light heavyweight and then somewhere else in heavyweight and middleweight, or do you rank him as a light heavyweight with consideration already for his stints at other weights?
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:01 PM   #11
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Tommy Loughran
Maxie Rosenbloom
John Henry Lewis
Billy Conn
Archie Moore
Bob Foster
Victor Galindez
Matthew Saad Muhammad
Michael Spinks
Roy Jones Jr.

Honorable mention: Paul Berlenbach, Jimmy Bivins, Jack Delaney, Sam Langford, Yaqui Lopez, Lloyd Marshall, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, Kid Norfolk, Jimmy Slattery, Young Stribling
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:29 PM   #12
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hey, where is Dariusz michalchewski???
The judges haven't gotten to janitor yet.
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Old 10-10-2007, 03:38 PM   #13
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Here is my top 20. While it has its eccentricities it is fair to say that anybody on this list is worth learing more about.

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Gene Tunney
4. Archie Moore

5. Harry Grebb
6. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Billy Conn

8. Jack Dillon
9. Tommy Loughran

10. Michael Spinks
11. Kid Norfolk
12. Joe Choynski

13. Harold Johnson
14. Tommy Gibbons

15. Maxie Rosenbloom
16. John Henry Lewis
17. Jimmy Bivins
18. Bob Foster
19. Jack Delaney
20. Tiger Jack Fox
Foster only at 18?


Also, in the interests of partizan bias where would people have John Conteh rated. Somewhat of an underachiever or so I'm led to believe.
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Old 10-10-2007, 04:48 PM   #14
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Default Re: Top 20 Lightheavyweights Of All Time

Quote:
Originally Posted by janitor
Here is my top 20. While it has its eccentricities it is fair to say that anybody on this list is worth learing more about.

1. Sam Langford
2. Ezzard Charles
3. Gene Tunney
4. Archie Moore

5. Harry Grebb
6. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Billy Conn

8. Jack Dillon
9. Tommy Loughran

10. Michael Spinks
11. Kid Norfolk
12. Joe Choynski

13. Harold Johnson
14. Tommy Gibbons

15. Maxie Rosenbloom
16. John Henry Lewis
17. Jimmy Bivins
18. Bob Foster
19. Jack Delaney
20. Tiger Jack Fox


Great list!
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Old 10-10-2007, 05:24 PM   #15
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I really think Eddie Mustapha Muhammad is frequently overlooked as an ATG at light heavy.

And from a head to head point of view so too is Michael Moorer.
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