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Old 10-11-2007, 08:19 AM   #16
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He's a good fighter, but imo he's overrated.
I'd have him fourth at 168 atm. Not bad though considering the division has a fair bit of talent in it.
look man we are boxing fans it's hard to keep a perfect assumption of sombody...look at mcCline most of us were thinking he was featherfisted and that sam peter was iron jawed.

overated is used so much...over appreciation i think is the best term.
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:21 AM   #17
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look man we are boxing fans it's hard to keep a perfect assumption of sombody...look at mcCline most of us were thinking he was featherfisted and that sam peter was iron jawed.

overated is used so much...over appreciation i think is the best term.
No. I think overrated fits better.
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:24 AM   #18
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How do you overrate an unbeaten Boxer? could you at least wait for his first defeat?
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:28 AM   #19
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How do you overrate an unbeaten Boxer?
Quite easily. In fact it's much easier to overrate an unbeaten boxer than one who has a loss next to his name.

If you think about it, I'm sure you can see it.
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:41 AM   #20
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Quite easily. In fact it's much easier to overrate an unbeaten boxer than one who has a loss next to his name.

If you think about it, I'm sure you can see it.
Right, I get your point.
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Old 10-11-2007, 08:41 AM   #21
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Enough said.
Not really.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:09 AM   #22
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Enough said.
Your chikening out Slick? No bet on this bout? it's easy starting fires... but walking the talk is a little more difficult isn't it?
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:53 PM   #23
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while i can't see bute beating calzaghe or kessler, that doesn't mean he sucks.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:54 PM   #24
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While i find him a bit overrated here Bute doesn't suck. He's an exciting fighter that will give anyone at 168 hell.
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Old 10-12-2007, 12:58 AM   #25
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He's a very good fighter in a deep division. Anybody know his amatuer record? I'm curious.

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Old 10-12-2007, 01:51 AM   #26
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Bute had over 250 amateur fights with about 15 losses.
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Old 10-12-2007, 01:55 AM   #27
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Bute had over 250 amateur fights with about 15 losses.
not a half bad record
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:09 AM   #28
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anybody who claims that Bute sucks needs to get there head checked..common the lad has 20 pro fights and still learning and getting better every fight. He did very well against Bika, i'd say possibly better than Joe did. Bika would make every top 10 fighter look foolish. He is surely # 3 or 4 in quite possibly the best division. Out of the top 20 smws, he is the one who started his pro carrer last (2003). Indeed not a brawler and maybe less exciting than a ''Jeff Lacy'' type fighter, Lucian is a skillfull, patient and a smart boxer. His handlers have chosen the right path for him and he is at the verge of holding his first major belt (grant you that IBF is not the best belt to have). As for being over-rated, I dont think many people around here say that Bute is the best in the division, BUT he does have the potential to become a great smw fighter. His #3 or 4 spot is fair in the rankings. Calzaghe and Kessler are in a league of ther own, mundine and Inkin would be a toss-up but Bute beats Lacy, Froch, and Berrio. Some fighters with 30 + fights under there belt might give Lucian a hard time in the ring but to Bute's credit, he does have the great ability to adapt during a fight which is a good sign for a futur champion. Basically, Bute is still learning and will get better with more experience. He has all the tools and potential to achieve greatness, and maybe in that repect, i may over-rate him, as do some others, but i guess time will tell. We'll see what he will get done next friday against Berrio.
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:34 AM   #29
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The this thread sucks like a dime bag whore jonesing for a fix.
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:45 AM   #30
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anybody who claims that Bute sucks needs to get there head checked..common the lad has 20 pro fights and still learning and getting better every fight. He did very well against Bika, i'd say possibly better than Joe did. Bika would make every top 10 fighter look foolish. He is surely # 3 or 4 in quite possibly the best division. Out of the top 20 smws, he is the one who started his pro carrer last (2003). Indeed not a brawler and maybe less exciting than a ''Jeff Lacy'' type fighter, Lucian is a skillfull, patient and a smart boxer. His handlers have chosen the right path for him and he is at the verge of holding his first major belt (grant you that IBF is not the best belt to have). As for being over-rated, I dont think many people around here say that Bute is the best in the division, BUT he does have the potential to become a great smw fighter. His #3 or 4 spot is fair in the rankings. Calzaghe and Kessler are in a league of ther own, mundine and Inkin would be a toss-up but Bute beats Lacy, Froch, and Berrio. Some fighters with 30 + fights under there belt might give Lucian a hard time in the ring but to Bute's credit, he does have the great ability to adapt during a fight which is a good sign for a futur champion. Basically, Bute is still learning and will get better with more experience. He has all the tools and potential to achieve greatness, and maybe in that repect, i may over-rate him, as do some others, but i guess time will tell. We'll see what he will get done next friday against Berrio.
Pascal started his career after Bute (in 2005)
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