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Old 10-11-2007, 09:17 AM   #16
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Default Re: Pacman wants Valero next.

JMM,Guzman,Diaz,Casa stand a pretty damn good chance at beating Pacman.

Valero is too much of a brawler to survive, his skills are overrated, he simply overwhelms his opponents, and that can't be done in an effective way against someone that's better then him in all categories.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:31 AM   #17
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I watched all youtube videos of Valero and I noticed he is very dependent on his left hand... easy to defend for Manny...
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:42 AM   #18
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Guys, at the end of the day Valero vs Pac would be sooooooo much fun to watch .. im well up for that match being made.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:56 AM   #19
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JMM first, then he can fight anybody. But he needs JMM at 130 to settle once and for all who is THE MAN at 130...

Valero has never fought on an American TV network and therefore is less known to moderate boxing/sports fans than Marquez is. Let Edwin build up his name a little bit over the next year - then fight him at the end of '08...
He can't get a license to fight in the US. If the fight will ever happen, it will be in Macau.
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Old 10-11-2007, 09:58 AM   #20
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JMM first, then he can fight anybody. But he needs JMM at 130 to settle once and for all who is THE MAN at 130...

Valero has never fought on an American TV network and therefore is less known to moderate boxing/sports fans than Marquez is. Let Edwin build up his name a little bit over the next year - then fight him at the end of '08...
Pretty much my 08 wish too, bro.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:13 AM   #21
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If JMM realy want to fight PAC then he should just accept the fact that PAC is the higher draw and Pac should get the higher purse. its all in JMM's hands if he want the rematch to happen. He's avoiding pac too long.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:21 AM   #22
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No I'm just tired of being teased...I want to know who he is "definitely" fighting so I can try to form an opinion on who I think will win
dont hold on this buddy... nothings definite... i learned that along time ago with regards to who PAc's gonna fight next... i dont want to get excited for a fight that isnt sure to happen... remember soto? PAC said he wants soto after soto beat his brother... but PAC fought with solis...
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:25 AM   #23
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Decent enough fight but what about the 2 biggest threats - Guzman and JMM.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:32 AM   #24
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Decent enough fight but what about the 2 biggest threats - Guzman and JMM.
Both are avoiding Pac, especially JMM, who is making the purse as an excuse..
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:48 AM   #25
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Default Re: Pacman wants Valero next.

If Pac wants to SILENCE all critics? JMM is necessary for Ring Belt, the winner of Guzman vs Soto, AND Valero are involved.

What he should do is make the NEXT fight for whomever of the 3 are willing, available, and agree to the fight.

Clean out 30 before 30 and he can still move up to a marquee matchup at 35 and make much more money, and REAL RESPECT, to go with all the "titles".
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:48 AM   #26
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Both are avoiding Pac, especially JMM, who is making the purse as an excuse..
Actually Pacmans avoiding Guzman, Guzman would get a career high payday and would take the fight in a miniute. He called Pacman out but Pacman didnt reply. Now Guzman is fighting Sotto and has already beat Barrios for the WBO belt. He was also proven and ducked at 122 and 126.

Guzmans got a very difficult style for Pacman to fight, skills, speed, footwork, defense, good power. He looks a bit like Mayweather with power

JMM maybe avoiding the fight, we need to hear his side of the story before passing judgement
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:51 AM   #27
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Pac should fight JMM first, then Guzman or Valero before moving up at 135.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:56 AM   #28
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Actually Pacmans avoiding Guzman, Guzman would get a career high payday and would take the fight in a miniute. He called Pacman out but Pacman didnt reply. Now Guzman is fighting Sotto and has already beat Barrios for the WBO belt. He was also proven and ducked at 122 and 126.

Guzmans got a very difficult style for Pacman to fight, skills, speed, footwork, defense, good power. He looks a bit like Mayweather with power

JMM maybe avoiding the fight, we need to hear his side of the story before passing judgement
Mayweather at 130 had 3x as much power as Guzman does.

Pac's not ducking Guzman. I don't get why the Guzman huggers don't get this. It's not a money fight. Guzman isn't a name, and there are three other guys who are bigger names who are equally big threats. If Guzman beats Soto, maybe he'll see his name improve, but in the meantime he's unknown and unproven.
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:02 AM   #29
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Guzman is hell too slow for Pacman ...
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:13 AM   #30
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Fight SOTO!!! He would make for a better fight than Valero. Valero is not experienced enough yet. and seems to have no technique. Thats why Pac wants to fight him he is the least experienced of the 4 out there and the one he will beat more than likely. JMM is tough as he found out. Guzman is faster than he is and has good technique. Soto is strong and technically sound so of course avoid him when he calls you out. Come on Pac step it up you go from fighting the old legends to the newbies like Valero...
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