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Old 10-11-2007, 11:14 AM   #31
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He next fight should be with JMM or the winner of Soto vs Guzman
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Old 10-11-2007, 11:36 AM   #32
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it should be marquez just to prove who is the better fighter. if he pushes with valero, it would still be ok because it would also be an entertaining match.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:19 PM   #33
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Guzman is hell too slow for Pacman ...
go to youtube and look at guzman working with the pads. its blazing fast. he is definately faster than Pac. not better though, at least hasnt proved it yet.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:23 PM   #34
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Pac is avoiding the JMM fight it seems. What happen to the pac who took on all challenges? If pac really wanted to fight JMM he could have made the fight happen. I dont want to believe pac is scared but that appears to be the case.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:26 PM   #35
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Seems like JMM's outpricing himself again to avoid Pac.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:33 PM   #36
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JMM and the winner of Guzman-Soto, then Pac retires as one of the greatest 126-130 lbs ever.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:55 PM   #37
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r.i.p velero

really velero isnt as bad as people think he hits hard even if his record over exagerates the fact but he can punch and does ahave some skills...it isnt that much of a one sided fight.

but paq wins and velero gets some credabilty.
I agree! Valero is no joke. He's still green in the sense that he's only faught 2 fighters that were quality opponents. PAC has an entire laundry list.

But I do think PAC wins this one by late round KO and it will be a great WAR. Both stocks will rise!
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:59 PM   #38
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Well, JMM is a challenge also. Let's see Pac get eaten alive by Guzman in the near future.
Guzman will be quite a meal for PAC. Maybe a bit difficult to swallow but ultimately PAC shits on Guzman in one form or anther.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:59 PM   #39
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Vakero is ok by me....he is still the lesser of the belt holders at 130 though admittedly. We all know this. I haven't read the whole thread, but why him and not the Guzmam/Soto winner?
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:01 PM   #40
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Mayweather at 130 had 3x as much power as Guzman does.

Pac's not ducking Guzman. I don't get why the Guzman huggers don't get this. It's not a money fight. Guzman isn't a name, and there are three other guys who are bigger names who are equally big threats. If Guzman beats Soto, maybe he'll see his name improve, but in the meantime he's unknown and unproven.
But Valero isn't one of them. He can't fight Valero and say "Guzman isn't a money fight."

Either way, I am happy with a Valero fight....I just think there are better out there. Kinda like I am happy with PBF-Hatton, though there are better fights to be made IMO.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:06 PM   #41
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Actually Pacmans avoiding Guzman, Guzman would get a career high payday and would take the fight in a miniute. He called Pacman out but Pacman didnt reply. Now Guzman is fighting Sotto and has already beat Barrios for the WBO belt. He was also proven and ducked at 122 and 126.

Guzmans got a very difficult style for Pacman to fight, skills, speed, footwork, defense, good power. He looks a bit like Mayweather with power

JMM maybe avoiding the fight, we need to hear his side of the story before passing judgement
It's not PAC avoiding Joan...it's Joan has nothing to bring to the table. Belts aren't a concern for PAC b/c he has the respect of the boxing world by his preformance, Dominance and level of opposition. We all know he's the real deal.

PAC makes fights that make financial cents and that fans want to see. Some fans.....hardcore boxing fans know Joan is a good fighter with a slick and crafty style and know it would be a decent fight for PAC....BUT NO ONE ELSE knows who Joan is and don't care to make the fight.

When Joan...IF...Joan gets past Soto it will set him up to be in position to really make a statement and to call out PAC...and at that Time PAC will be more willing to listen. Right now Joan offers nothing but a WBO belt which in today's boxing almost any good fighter can grab.

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Old 10-11-2007, 01:20 PM   #42
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Pac is avoiding the JMM fight it seems. What happen to the pac who took on all challenges? If pac really wanted to fight JMM he could have made the fight happen. I dont want to believe pac is scared but that appears to be the case.
LOL...JMM is doing what he has always done since his first meeting with PAC....AVOID HIM! He doesn't want to get back in the ring with PAC b/c he knows the outcome. PAC isn't pricing himself out of the fight...JMM is. He's asking for MORE $$ than PAC would receive! That's just saying (Without saying) that he doesn't want to do a rematch. I don't balme him either.
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Old 10-11-2007, 01:22 PM   #43
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I would be happy if he gave Valero a chance but why isn't he gunning for a rematch with marquez or the winner of Soto?

Why valero?
He tried for JMM but you can't make a man fight if he just doesn't want to. In boxing when you price yourself out of a fight its as good as saying you are either scared, you really don't want the fight or you know your worth and fighting for what you deserve. The later is not the case for JMM.....he's asking for MORE than what PAC would Make! That's just ridiculous!
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Old 10-11-2007, 02:31 PM   #44
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Pacman/Valero = Hagler/Hearns

I hope it goes down.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:00 PM   #45
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He should fight Valero first, he has a belt that PAC needs right now, and i think this is feasible to negotiate since the others have their own fights to finish. And its not even sure if the prospective opponents will get a win. Its better to set up a fight with someone with a belt than to try and negotiate for a fight not knowing if it will be a championship bout.
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