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Old 04-19-2010, 03:36 PM   #46
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when he was at the lighter weights his combos were scary,when he boxed gatti his punch sucsess was 83% or there abouts! nobodys managed to beat him and prove him wrong eh? think about it?
Except for Castillo the first time round. Gatti was hardly a defensive whiz either. Sadly he isn't at the lighter weights any more. He's a distinctly uninspiring welter.
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Old 04-19-2010, 03:41 PM   #47
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His record and bank balance would suggest he ain't flawed...
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Old 04-19-2010, 03:46 PM   #48
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It would have been nice if you had highlighted at least one technical flaw. You didn't.

In my opinion he is technically one of the best fighters who ever lived. If I had to criticise an aspect of his technique it would be that on some shots he doesn't turn his wrist into them, but that is obviously down to fragile hands.

His shoulder roll is disgusting. His footwork is brilliant, his handspeed is insane. He can work inside and outside, he can pick counter shots on the backfoot as well as he can pick lead shots on the front foot.

He is a ****ing genius. I think he wins an easy UD against Mosley and I rate Mosley highly and would love him to win.
The major issue with PBF is that he is arrogant and complacent at times. He has often not got the fire to produce his best and seems to think he has some god given right to win.

In fact there are many reasons to think other fighters from the past or present would beat him. But the one area that I would dismiss from that is technique.
I agree with every word of this.
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Old 04-19-2010, 03:49 PM   #49
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Except for Castillo the first time round. Gatti was hardly a defensive whiz either. Sadly he isn't at the lighter weights any more. He's a distinctly uninspiring welter.
No he's not.

he beat the lineal champ. then beat the guy who he'd beaten, after plenty of people doubted the win.

He then beat the best lww out there, who was physically the more-or-less same, given where they'd both started in weight. He had a tremendous victory against ODLH n all, people laughed at hi challenging the golden boy only a year or o earlier.

The guy has plenty of flaws, but I never thought it's reach a stage that he's underrated.
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Old 04-19-2010, 04:20 PM   #50
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No he's not.

he beat the lineal champ. then beat the guy who he'd beaten, after plenty of people doubted the win.

He then beat the best lww out there, who was physically the more-or-less same, given where they'd both started in weight. He had a tremendous victory against ODLH n all, people laughed at hi challenging the golden boy only a year or o earlier.
Beating Baldomir is inspiring to you? Wonders never cease...

Ricky was not 'more or less the same size' as Mayweather. Mayweather was a fully-fledged WW, Ricky was not. Hatton had looked abysmal since beating Tyszu.

The Judah win was good, no doubt, but nothing amazing. Meanwhile, he was avoiding Margarito, Cotto, Williams, Cintron... all much better fighters than Judah or Baldomir.

And Oscar. For such a tremendous victory, why did he only get the SD? Against a part-time, rusty, disinterested Oscar? He's just not as good as his biggest fans make out.

Go on, deny that.
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Old 04-19-2010, 04:24 PM   #51
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Floyd Mayweather Jnr is a boxing genius imo
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Old 04-19-2010, 04:31 PM   #52
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> He's not a fluid puncher

> When he misses is "single pit shot" he goes straight back into his defence and thinks about what he's going to do next.

> He never really follows up on his missed pot shots.

explain to me how these are flaws if thats his style

hes not fluid in the sence that he dosent trow combos a great deal but his one - two is very fluid and his style isnt about fluid combos but im sure he can throw them


he misses he defends thats what you should do unless you wanna get hit


the last the same as above

plus hes a counter puncher he lands when you miss
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Old 04-19-2010, 04:36 PM   #53
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Technically flawed? are you having a laugh?

He's one of the best technical fighters out there, also a fighter who turns his hand over properly when throwing punches as well.

Not a fluid puncher? take a look at when he fought at 130 and put combinations together. As he's gone up in weight he feels that he's more effective pot shotting, and who's to argue? Nobodys proved otherwise as of yet.
Did you see 24/7???

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Old 04-19-2010, 05:07 PM   #54
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This is not ****ing maths mate..........you know what i mean..?

This is talk boxing, and i'm sorry.......

But i don't agree with this statement by Tony Bellow.....here it is.



no.....no.......no.....NO.!

Maybe he got carried away, with the 24/7 posts.....i don't know meeeeeeen.
Relax he's just another Radiohead fan
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:17 PM   #55
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I rate PBF as one of the best of all time stylistically. There will be no way any other fighter now or in the future will have a more impressive record of those from years gone by due to the fact that todays fighters are lucky to fight twice a year whereas Robinson and La Motta etc of yesteryear had more fights than hot dinners. However, we still get to decide on who has the classier looking style and imo Floyd is the most polished fighter today and one of the best of all time. There isnt really any fighters who's record cant be torn apart. I think Manny Pacs record is far more leaky than Floyds and its been a while since he faced a prime fighter too. Every coin has 2 sides
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:22 PM   #56
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I rate PBF as one of the best of all time stylistically. There will be no way any other fighter now or in the future will have a more impressive record of those from years gone by due to the fact that todays fighters are lucky to fight twice a year whereas Robinson and La Motta etc of yesteryear had more fights than hot dinners. However, we still get to decide on who has the classier looking style and imo Floyd is the most polished fighter today and one of the best of all time. There isnt really any fighters who's record cant be torn apart. I think Manny Pacs record is far more leaky than Floyds and its been a while since he faced a prime fighter too. Every coin has 2 sides
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:26 PM   #57
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i was thinking the same. imo pac has 1 of the best resume's of any current active fighter
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:29 PM   #58
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If you want to be really harsh you can pick Pac's record apart above 130 - but you would be a real Professor Hindsight.

Diaz = handpicked
DLH = shot, badly weight drained
Hatton = mentally not right, good style match
Cotto = damaged goods, tight at 145
Clottey = knows what side his bread is buttered

etc etc

Given that he's 5-1-1 over Barrera, Marquez and Morales (arguably 4-3 but we'll leave that there) I think to call his record weak is harsh.

The only thing you could criticise is that he's never unified a division - but what's more important.... unifying a division or beating the best fighters within it, given that it's two different things these days
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:32 PM   #59
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i was thinking the same. imo pac has 1 of the best resume's of any current active fighter
He has THE best record of any current active fighter IMO.
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Old 04-19-2010, 05:32 PM   #60
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lol @ your reasons for picking apart manny's record above 130, quite absurd.
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