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Old 01-13-2011, 12:22 PM   #1
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Remember when boxing was King of the Neighbourhood? When great boxing cities were New York, Philadelphia and Los Angeles rather than Vegas or Atlantic City? Well listed below from a March 1996 Ring, is listed ten boxing cities, ten best fighters.

As The Ring pointed out, they only have so much space and could not do lists for such Cities as Miami, Seattle, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Washington, D.C., Cleveland and Buffalo. Maybe someone give that a crack? Maybe to, lists for Vegas and Atlantic City, or indeed other Cities/Towns throughout the world?

Looking though it, some of the picks are obvious, some could cause debate.

The Top Ten of New York

10: Jake LaMotta
9: Joe Lynch
8: Terry McGovern
7: Maxie Rosenbloom
6: Johnny Dundee
5: Gene Tunney
4: Jack Britton
3: Tony Canzoneri
2: Benny Leonard
1: Ray Robinson

The best fight: Louis/SchmelingII

The Top Ten of San Francisco

10: Frankie Klick
9: Tom Sharkey
8: Fred Apostoli
7: Bobo Olson
6: Jimmy Britt
5: Willie Ritchie
4: Frankie Neil
3: Joe Choynski
2: James J Corbett
1: Abe Attell

The best fight: Johnson/Ketchel

The Top Ten of Chicago

10: Eddie Perkins
9: Ernie Terrell
8: Johnny Bratton
7: Davey Day
6: Nate Bolden
5: Johnny Coulon
4: Jimmy Barry
3: Barney Ross
2: Tony Zale
1: Battling Nelson

The best fight: Graziano/ZaleII

The Top Ten of Boston

10: Sammy Langford
9: Jack Sharkey
8: Lou Brouillard
7: Honeyboy Finnegan
6: Paul Pender
5: Sal Bartolo
4: Tony DeMarco
3: Marvin Hagler
2: Rocky Marciano
1: John L Sullivan

Best fight: Hagler/MonroeII

The Top Ten of New Orleans

10: Andy Bowen
9: Tony Licata
8: Percy Pugh
7: Bernard Docusen
6: Jimmy Perrin
5: Freddie Little
4: Ralph Dupas
3: Willie Pastrano
2: Joe Brown
1: Pete Herman

Best fight: Corbett/Sullivan

The Top Ten of Los Angeles

10: Ceferino Garcia
9: Fidel LaBarba
8: Solly Smith
7: Carlos Palomino
6: Jimmy McLarnin
5: Mando Ramos
4: Art Aragon
3: Baby Arizmendi
2: Manuel Ortiz
1: James J Jeffries

The best fight: Art Aragon/Cisco Andrade

The Top Ten of Detroit

10: Jimmy Paul
9: Dwight Davison
8: K.O. Morgan
7: Hilmer Kenty
6: Michael Moorer
5: Milton McCrory
4: Holman Williams
3: James Toney
2: Tommy Hearns
1: Joe Louis

The best fight: Caveman Lee/John Locicero

The Top Ten of Pittsburgh

10:Cuddy DeMarco
9: Jackie Wilson
8: Frank Klaus
7: Sammy Angott
6: Fritzie Zivic
5: Billy Soose
4: Teddy Yarosz
3: Charley Burley
2: Billy Conn
1: Harry Greb

The best fight: Walcott/CharlesIII

The Top Ten of Philadelphia

10: Bennie Briscoe
9: Lew Tendler
8: Midget Wolgast
7: Tommy Loughran
6: Matt Saad Muhammad
5: Jeff Chandler
4: Joey Giardello
3: Harold Johnson
2: Bob Montgomery
1: Joe Frazier

The best fight: Marciano/WalcottI

The Top Ten of Baltimore

10: Jack Portney
9: Jimmy McAllister
8: Red Burman
7: Vincent Pettway
6: Vince Dundee
5: Joe Dundee
4: K.O. Chaney
3: Kid Williams
2: Harry Jeffra
1: Joe Gans

The best fight: Ralph Palladin/Johnny Doyan

 
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Old 01-13-2011, 12:30 PM   #2
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I have a good idea! Do a tournament like the era tourney we had. I don't know half the names on the lists so just throwing the suggestion out
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Old 01-14-2011, 02:30 AM   #3
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Remember when boxing was King of the Neighbourhood? When great boxing cities were New York, Philadelphia and Los Angeles rather than Vegas or Atlantic City? Well listed below from a March 1996 Ring, is listed ten boxing cities, ten best fighters.

As The Ring pointed out, they only have so much space and could not do lists for such Cities as Miami, Seattle, Milwaukee, Cincinnati, Washington, D.C., Cleveland and Buffalo. Maybe someone give that a crack? Maybe to, lists for Vegas and Atlantic City, or indeed other Cities/Towns throughout the world?

 
St. Paul fighters to start with would be

Mike Gibbons
Tommy Gibbons
Mike O'Dowd
Billy Miske
Jock Malone

Cincinnati:

Ezzard Charles
Freddie Miller
Aaron Pryor
Bud Smith
Tony Tubbs (born there but only fought a few times there)
George Costner
Billy Joiner
The Bezenah Brothers


Cleveland:

Johnny Kilbane
Jimmy Bivins
Joey Maxim
Lloyd Marshall
Lem Franklin
Johnny Risko
Paul Pirrone
Anton Christoforidis
Phil Brock
Matt Brock
Jackie Davis
Jimmy Reeves
Cleveland Jackie Wilson

Milwaukee:

Gus Christie
Bob Moha
Charley Neary
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Old 01-14-2011, 03:24 AM   #4
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No Phila Jack O'Brien?!?
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:26 AM   #5
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Well i know this is from 96 but if you made that list today Delahoya,Mosley are definitely high on the LA list... Also Bobby Chacon and Danny Lopez should be on the list more so than Solly Smith,Ceferino Garcia and even Art Aragon.... U could make a case for throwing in Chicanito Hernandez... although Enrique Bolanos was from Mexico he was considered an LA guy he moved here as a teen and fought his whole career in LA, if it wasnt for the Great Ike Williams(whohe fought to split decision 1st fight) he would have been a helluva champ..... If they did a top 20 or 30 LA might be the deepest of all the american cities.
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Old 01-14-2011, 04:40 AM   #6
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Seattle

Freddie Steele
Rocky Lockridge
Greg Haugen
John David Jackson
Leo Randolph
Johnny Bumphus
Sugar Ray Seals
Emmit Linton


Pinklon Thomas also trained and fought here as an amatuer and early pro, but i didnt include him as hes more of a Pontiac,Michigan guy.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:08 AM   #7
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It is nice to see Bob Montgomery get some well deserved recognition and he is likely a lock at top 5....Jeff Chandler one of my favorites and i find him to be underrated at BW on the whole, but not sure i could lock him into top 5 here....Tommy loughran should be ahead of MS Muhammad (who I also like) and well into the top 5. Not bad although with more time I know i would like to see other alterations that i don't agree with there!

The Top Ten of Philadelphia

10: Bennie Briscoe
9: Lew Tendler
8: Midget Wolgast
7: Tommy Loughran
6: Matt Saad Muhammad
5: Jeff Chandler
4: Joey Giardello
3: Harold Johnson
2: Bob Montgomery
1: Joe Frazier

The best fight: Marciano/WalcottI
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Cool lists. Does anyone think Floyd Patterson should break the top 10 for new york boxers?
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:35 AM   #9
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Hopkins would have to rank as the greatest Philly fighter for me now.
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Old 01-14-2011, 09:46 AM   #10
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Hopkins would have to rank as the greatest Philly fighter for me now.
Hop's is one of my favorites and while I still have not sat down to form any list, i don't see him as a lock for the top 5 but most likely a lock in the top 10
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Bristol would sport a distinguished list!
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Cool lists. Does anyone think Floyd Patterson should break the top 10 for new york boxers?
I was thinking that as well. In my humble opinion, Tyson has to be a top 10 NY fighter though.
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Old 01-14-2011, 05:07 PM   #13
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Some of those lists are prety dire.

Sam Langfod at 10 for Boston?

Have there been ten fighters from the planet earth who have a case to be above Langford?
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:16 PM   #14
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Some of those lists are prety dire.

Sam Langfod at 10 for Boston?

Have there been ten fighters from the planet earth who have a case to be above Langford?
There is a better case for no fighters from planet earth to be above him.
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Love these lists. Wish someone would have posted the one paragraph write-up after each fighter (as it appeared in The Ring, 3/96 issue).

The more I read about Joe Mandot, the more I realize how criminal it was to leave him off the New Orleans list.
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