On the bounce: Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Arbraham - credit to Froch - Page 2

Grant1 · 04-24-2010, 09:13 PM

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The "whats Pascal done?" question is easy to answer...he became the WBC Light Heavyweight champion.

So he became a belt holder?

loginistooshort · 04-24-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GazOC

The "whats Pascal done?" question is easy to answer...he became the WBC Light Heavyweight champion.

Yep, this is a legit win. Although he's gonna lose it in his next bout.

GazOC · 04-24-2010, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Grant1

So he became a belt holder?

Yep, theres devils advocate and theres sticking the boot in.....

Pug1list · 04-24-2010, 09:16 PM

Good run of opposition, although the results are questionable.

TFFP · 04-24-2010, 09:17 PM

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Many more fights like that and they'll be all shot to shit just in time for Bute to mop up the winner...

True...tonight must have put a few miles on both clocks. I think they've both racked up some wear and tear anyway. Kessler has had a long old career, injuries aplenty, inactivity. Froch's face first defence and tough fights of late. Both should call it a day after this really.

GazOC · 04-24-2010, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pug1list

Good run of opposition, although the results are questionable.

You had Kessler losing as well?

Grant1 · 04-24-2010, 09:18 PM

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Yep, theres devils advocate and theres sticking the boot in.....

No, serious, that's not what I'm looking to do.

Froch is a breath of fresh air.

But at some point he needs to be treated to the same level of scrituny as the rest of our world champs.

Grant1 · 04-24-2010, 09:19 PM

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True...tonight must have put a few miles on both clocks. I think they've both racked up some wear and tear anyway. Kessler has had a long old career, injuries aplenty, inactivity. Froch's face first defence and tough fights of late. Both should call it a day after this really.

That was Kessler's last tonight, I'm convinced of it.

If he fights Green he loses.

He's a shadow of the fighter that fought Andrade.

GazOC · 04-24-2010, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Grant1

No, serious, that's not what I'm looking to do.

Froch is a breath of fresh air.

But at some point he needs to be treated to the same level of scrituny as the rest of our world champs.

TBH I think most boxers get treated too harshly on forums. Every fight/ defence won't be against the best guy availiable and who also happens to be in his prime.

Smurker · 04-24-2010, 09:21 PM

Kessler - Lost in a good scrap on opposition turf amid travel chaos. No excuse though, Kessler earned the victory.

Dirrell - beat an apparently scared opponent who ran all night and yet he still connected with more punches

Taylor - ok, probably well past his best, but people everywhere predicted a defeat and Taylor had only lost to one opponent and beat Lacey 5 months prior

Pascal - one of the fights of the year, all out war. Pascals only defeat to date in 26 bouts.

I see what you are saying, but Froch has earned plenty of respect in most people eyes, he is never going to be an atg but he takes on any challenge and apart from style/technique is exactly what this sport needs more of. Imagine if there was a few as game in every weight class, you would soon be able to call out the easy path merchants.

Grant1 · 04-24-2010, 09:31 PM

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TBH I think most boxers get treated too harshly on forums. Every fight/ defence won't be against the best guy availiable and who also happens to be in his prime.

Yeah of course, but for some reason if somebody fights Froch their stock rises.

People are giving him a free ride.

Apparently his last 4 have been the hardest ever on the spin.

His attitude is great, but lets be consistent.

GazOC · 04-24-2010, 09:35 PM

I think you could argue its the 4 hardest fighters fought on the spin by a British fighter?

Grant1 · 04-24-2010, 09:36 PM

Depends what critique we are holding his opponents to.

TFFP · 04-24-2010, 09:38 PM

Yep Green's gonna be trouble. Don't really rate him but...handspeed. Handspeed

Mikkel doesn't like that. Even more so at the moment, his reactions are slow as fuck.

He'll have to grind that one out again. Green doesn't follow a gameplan very well and can lose confidence.

Grant1 · 04-24-2010, 09:40 PM

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Yep Green's gonna be trouble. Don't really rate him but...handspeed. Handspeed

Mikkel doesn't like that. Even more so at the moment, his reactions are slow as fuck.

He'll have to grind that one out again. Green doesn't follow a gameplan very well and can lose confidence.

Mikkel needs to let it go I'm afraid.

No chance he will, but thems my thoughts.

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Pug1list Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 3,364 vCash: 100	Re: On the bounce: Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Arbraham - credit to Froch Good run of opposition, although the results are questionable.
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Smurker A ban of honour East Side Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Parts Unknown Posts: 6,427 vCash: 931	Re: On the bounce: Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Arbraham - credit to Froch Kessler - Lost in a good scrap on opposition turf amid travel chaos. No excuse though, Kessler earned the victory. Dirrell - beat an apparently scared opponent who ran all night and yet he still connected with more punches Taylor - ok, probably well past his best, but people everywhere predicted a defeat and Taylor had only lost to one opponent and beat Lacey 5 months prior Pascal - one of the fights of the year, all out war. Pascals only defeat to date in 26 bouts. I see what you are saying, but Froch has earned plenty of respect in most people eyes, he is never going to be an atg but he takes on any challenge and apart from style/technique is exactly what this sport needs more of. Imagine if there was a few as game in every weight class, you would soon be able to call out the easy path merchants.
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GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The Spion Kop Posts: 44,504 vCash: 1000	Re: On the bounce: Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Arbraham - credit to Froch I think you could argue its the 4 hardest fighters fought on the spin by a British fighter?
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Grant1 Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: S Wales Posts: 7,074 vCash: 1421	Re: On the bounce: Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Arbraham - credit to Froch Depends what critique we are holding his opponents to.
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04-24-2010, 09:38 PM	#29
TFFP The Eskimo East Side VIP Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Reykjavík Posts: 30,345 vCash: 2500	Re: On the bounce: Pascal, Taylor, Dirrell, Kessler, Arbraham - credit to Froch Yep Green's gonna be trouble. Don't really rate him but...handspeed. Handspeed Mikkel doesn't like that. Even more so at the moment, his reactions are slow as fuck. He'll have to grind that one out again. Green doesn't follow a gameplan very well and can lose confidence.
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