The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! - Page 2

1lehudson · 04-25-2010, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KO KIDD

then who was Kessler? Froch?

Kessler was the top fighter at the weight in every rankings when the super-six started, Bute had just been knockedout and saved by a corrupt hometown judge.

KO KIDD · 04-25-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 1lehudson

Kessler was the top fighter at the weight in every rankings when the super-six started, Bute had just been knockedout and saved by a corrupt hometown judge.

I didnt think it was that controversial Andrade should have stayed in his corner. Kessler was 1 I can agree there but Bute was closing in

HandsOfGod84 · 04-25-2010, 10:33 PM

Ward #1 - ran through kessler for belt, and miranda
Dirrell #2 - beat froch, beat AA, ran from curtis stevens tho
Bute #3 - respect of being belt holder no way he is number #1 dude lost an got ko'd but ref never called

Kessler has lost to elite comp.... Joe Calz and Ward... so what he beat froch same guy outclassed by Taylor all night and Dirrell funny much props buddy...

boxer1025 · 04-25-2010, 10:50 PM

1. bute
2. ward
3. kessler

keith · 04-25-2010, 10:52 PM

I'll go top 5.

1. Ward
2. Kessler
3. Dirrell
4. Bute
5. Froch

Bute is kind of assed out since he can't even fight anyone that would move him up the rankings for a year or so.

Keith

tito44 · 04-25-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by HandsOfGod84

Kessler has lost to elite comp.... Joe Calz and Ward... so what he beat froch same guy outclassed by Taylor all night and Dirrell funny much props buddy...

Taylor, yes for about 8 rounds. Dirrell, just ran from him all night. Not that I want to defend Froch, but Dirrell looked bad in that fight.

boxer1025 · 04-25-2010, 10:54 PM

abraham could also be up there... the only guy that beat him also got KTFO by him!! LMAO =D

tito44 · 04-25-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by boxer1025

abraham could also be up there... the only guy that beat him also got KTFO by him!! LMAO =D

When its all over, he will be in the top 3, atleast.

Maxime · 04-25-2010, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 1lehudson

Bute doesnt belong in the top three, for the simple fact that he hasnt done anything that one of the fighters in the super-six hasnt done before him. Beatting mid top 20 guys doesnt make you number one when that is all you have faced. Beatting the best makes you the best and the fighters in the super-six are beatting the best, Bute is beatting the guys that lost to those guys. Its really pretty simple.

I realize you're the top Bute hater on ESB and it's kind of your thing but can you seriously stand here and tell us Andrade and Bika we're even top20?

I mean, if you don't think Bute should be top3. It's perfectly fine. I don't have a problem with that what so ever. But to say Bute's only been beating top20-25 opponents is absolutely retarded.

Atlanta · 04-25-2010, 11:45 PM

1. Andre Ward
2. Andre Dirrell
3. Kessler/Froch (have to watch that fight to truly get a sense if it was a robbery)

Boxing in montr · 04-25-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HandsOfGod84

Ward #1 - ran through kessler for belt, and miranda
Dirrell #2 - beat froch, beat AA, ran from curtis stevens tho
Bute #3 - respect of being belt holder no way he is number #1 dude lost an got ko'd but ref never called

Kessler has lost to elite comp.... Joe Calz and Ward... so what he beat froch same guy outclassed by Taylor all night and Dirrell funny much props buddy...

I would switch Bute with Dirrell and call it the top 3 of the moment.

And please read the damn IBF rules and you'll see that everything was ok. The only thing we can blame the referee for is not stopping the fight in the last 30 seconds because Bute wasn't defending himself but at the same time, Andrade wasn't touching him with his shots.

pasarica · 04-26-2010, 02:44 AM

1. BUTE ( no doubt favorite against anyone from Super 6 )
2-6. At a quite long distance the second level of equal fighters because everyone can beat everyone there: Ward, Kessler, Direll, Froch, Abraham.

This is the truth and the truth shall set you free people !

JJ · 04-26-2010, 03:02 AM

1. Ward
2. Dirrell
3. Kessler
4. Froch
5. Bute

The only thing Bute can do is to fight the two from super six that gets knocked out before the semis. And bring him self into the picture that way.

Or he can just stay in Canada and claim that he is the best.

WesT · 04-26-2010, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by onourway

Bute doesn't deserve to be mentioned alongside the others.

The 5 main competitors in Super Six could all beat Miranda, Andrade and Bika - the test is facing the best in the division, a number of different styles, in a tournament format, home and away....no hiding places.

Until Bute faces any of the main 5 in super six, he has to be ranked behind all of them.

LoL Green has a loss to Miranda

. Bute just KO him in 3. Miranda done better than Kessler against Ward

. Andrade is always a dangerous man. Bika is ...well ... inactive lately. I have no idea how good he is now

JoeAverage · 04-26-2010, 03:10 AM

Dirrell lost to Froch.

I don't think he can be ranked that highly - YET! (I am a fan and the sky is the limit for this guy... but let's keep it real for now).

1. Ward (best Kessler).
2. Kessler (beat Froch).
3. Froch (beat Dirrell).
4. Dirrell (beat AA).
5. AA (beat Taylor).
6. Bute (not in the SS and has much lower opposition that the SSers).
7. Green (replacement, has to prove he belongs).

This is on achievement alone. Skill is very subjective, and another list could easily be made on skill.

04-25-2010, 10:33 PM	#18
HandsOfGod84 Journeyman Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 89 vCash: 1000	Re: The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! Ward #1 - ran through kessler for belt, and miranda Dirrell #2 - beat froch, beat AA, ran from curtis stevens tho Bute #3 - respect of being belt holder no way he is number #1 dude lost an got ko'd but ref never called Kessler has lost to elite comp.... Joe Calz and Ward... so what he beat froch same guy outclassed by Taylor all night and Dirrell funny much props buddy...
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boxer1025 The Barbarian King ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,584 vCash: 2271	Re: The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! 1. bute 2. ward 3. kessler
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04-25-2010, 10:52 PM	#20
keith ESB OG ESB Addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Here to annoy the looney left Posts: 4,067 vCash: 1000	Re: The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! I'll go top 5. 1. Ward 2. Kessler 3. Dirrell 4. Bute 5. Froch Bute is kind of assed out since he can't even fight anyone that would move him up the rankings for a year or so. Keith
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boxer1025 The Barbarian King ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,584 vCash: 2271	Re: The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! abraham could also be up there... the only guy that beat him also got KTFO by him!! LMAO =D
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Atlanta P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 18,504 vCash: 528	Re: The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! 1. Andre Ward 2. Andre Dirrell 3. Kessler/Froch (have to watch that fight to truly get a sense if it was a robbery)
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pasarica Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 241 vCash: 500	Re: The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! 1. BUTE ( no doubt favorite against anyone from Super 6 ) 2-6. At a quite long distance the second level of equal fighters because everyone can beat everyone there: Ward, Kessler, Direll, Froch, Abraham. This is the truth and the truth shall set you free people !
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JJ Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Denmark Posts: 500 vCash: 1358	Re: The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! 1. Ward 2. Dirrell 3. Kessler 4. Froch 5. Bute The only thing Bute can do is to fight the two from super six that gets knocked out before the semis. And bring him self into the picture that way. Or he can just stay in Canada and claim that he is the best.
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JoeAverage Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 6,179 vCash: 1000	Re: The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! Dirrell lost to Froch. I don't think he can be ranked that highly - YET! (I am a fan and the sky is the limit for this guy... but let's keep it real for now). 1. Ward (best Kessler). 2. Kessler (beat Froch). 3. Froch (beat Dirrell). 4. Dirrell (beat AA). 5. AA (beat Taylor). 6. Bute (not in the SS and has much lower opposition that the SSers). 7. Green (replacement, has to prove he belongs). This is on achievement alone. Skill is very subjective, and another list could easily be made on skill.
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