The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! - Page 4

sonny73 · 04-26-2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeAverage

Dirrell lost to Froch.

I don't think he can be ranked that highly - YET! (I am a fan and the sky is the limit for this guy... but let's keep it real for now).

1. Ward (best Kessler).
2. Kessler (beat Froch).
3. Froch (beat Dirrell).
4. Dirrell (beat AA).
5. AA (beat Taylor).
6. Bute (not in the SS and has much lower opposition that the SSers).
7. Green (replacement, has to prove he belongs).

This is on achievement alone. Skill is very subjective, and another list could easily be made on skill.

Best list I have seen so far...but if you take into acc that Ward has yet to be tested abroad and try and add how they have fought away from home I would say

1.Dirrell
2.Froch
3.Ward
4.Kessler

Kessler was the least impressive away form home whilst Dirrell was the most impressive.Ward has yet to be tested so he is lower than Froch.I think fighting away from home has to also be taken into acc. now after seeing how hard it is.You really have to dominate to win away fromhome.

Teddy Edelman · 04-26-2010, 09:05 AM

1:Ward -SuperB fight against Kessler and won clearly.
2: Kessler-3 times worldchamp says it all.
3: Dirrell- good fight against Froch and a super fight against Abraham
4: Froch -2 good fights in super 6 with one close win and one close loss!
5: Bute - he's win over Miranda is just a waste of time! move up in level and face the best or do the chicken dance.
6: Abraham-big loss to Dirrell and great win over Tayler! big credit for moveing up in weight and faceing the best SMW!

BrooklynMumin · 04-26-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tito44

1.Bute
Ward
AA

Dirrell, is good but he does not beat AA in a rematch, Germany or Michigan.

13Black · 04-26-2010, 04:55 PM

Ok so I guess we are on the way to a top 10... so here you go... That's what I think about this:

My top:
1,2: Bute, Ward
3: Kessler
4,5,6: Dirrell, Froch, Abraham
7: Andrade
8: Bika
9,10,11: Green, Miranda and Stiegliz at 168lb (Miranda beat Green at 162lb)

1,2: Too close to call for now, maybe in 6-8 months we'll know!
3: He has the most experience in the group and he beat Froch!

4,5,6: 3 solid boxer, 3 different styles ... but 2nd graders (they could never be number one, they give trouble to the top 3 but can't beat them all)

7: Because after seeing Andrade against Bute... he is the shit! Chef de classe of the 3rd graders, He beats any of them!
8: Not really sure what do with him, he is probably badly managed, but has solid pedigree.
9,10,11: Miranda beat Green at 162lb. And I assure you, Andrade destroys Green!

Peace!

Big Left · 04-26-2010, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeAverage

Dirrell lost to Froch.

I don't think he can be ranked that highly - YET! (I am a fan and the sky is the limit for this guy... but let's keep it real for now).

1. Ward (best Kessler).
2. Kessler (beat Froch).
3. Froch (beat Dirrell).
4. Dirrell (beat AA).
5. AA (beat Taylor).
6. Bute (not in the SS and has much lower opposition that the SSers).
7. Green (replacement, has to prove he belongs).

This is on achievement alone. Skill is very subjective, and another list could easily be made on skill.

Good list, I think Bute can climb too high as he is only fightest 2nd teir SMW. All the best ones are in the Super 6.

Ramón · 04-26-2010, 05:02 PM

1. Bute
2. Ward
3. Dirrell

bailey · 04-26-2010, 05:03 PM

For top 3 at the moment id go
1. Bute
2. Ward
3. Kessler

The reason for this order is that Ward has a win over Kessler who was #1 at the time but other than that he hasnt done as much as Bute overall yet (that may soon change). Butes win over Miranda was more destructive than Wards and he has some reasonable wins over Andrade, Berrio and Bika, so ive put Bute 1st, Ward 2nd. Kessler 3rd for his come back win over Froch.

4. Froch
5. Dirrell

Ive tried to rate the fighters for what they have achieved rather than their potential

bailey · 04-26-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sonny73

Best list I have seen so far...but if you take into acc that Ward has yet to be tested abroad and try and add how they have fought away from home I would say

1.Dirrell
2.Froch
3.Ward
4.Kessler

I know this will have changed since Froch lost to Kessler since this was posted, but even though you may not agree with the result of Froch vs Dirrell. Froch got the decision and should be rated higher than Dirrell, shouldnt he?

Kessler was the least impressive away form home whilst Dirrell was the most impressive.Ward has yet to be tested so he is lower than Froch.I think fighting away from home has to also be taken into acc. now after seeing how hard it is.You really have to dominate to win away fromhome.

Good point, they have all lost away. Ward is having his next fight at home also

Laudrup · 04-26-2010, 05:13 PM

1. Ward
2. Kessler
3. Dirrell (although Frochs latest 4 fights are impressive)

Bute is not in because he hasnt beaten opposition to qualify. But he is up there at top 5.

04-26-2010, 09:05 AM	#47
Teddy Edelman Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 447 vCash: 1000	Re: The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! 1:Ward -SuperB fight against Kessler and won clearly. 2: Kessler-3 times worldchamp says it all. 3: Dirrell- good fight against Froch and a super fight against Abraham 4: Froch -2 good fights in super 6 with one close win and one close loss! 5: Bute - he's win over Miranda is just a waste of time! move up in level and face the best or do the chicken dance. 6: Abraham-big loss to Dirrell and great win over Tayler! big credit for moveing up in weight and faceing the best SMW!
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04-26-2010, 04:55 PM	#49
13Black Journeyman ESB Jr Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 125 vCash: 1690	Re: The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! Ok so I guess we are on the way to a top 10... so here you go... That's what I think about this: My top: 1,2: Bute, Ward 3: Kessler 4,5,6: Dirrell, Froch, Abraham 7: Andrade 8: Bika 9,10,11: Green, Miranda and Stiegliz at 168lb (Miranda beat Green at 162lb) 1,2: Too close to call for now, maybe in 6-8 months we'll know! 3: He has the most experience in the group and he beat Froch! 4,5,6: 3 solid boxer, 3 different styles ... but 2nd graders (they could never be number one, they give trouble to the top 3 but can't beat them all) 7: Because after seeing Andrade against Bute... he is the shit! Chef de classe of the 3rd graders, He beats any of them! 8: Not really sure what do with him, he is probably badly managed, but has solid pedigree. 9,10,11: Miranda beat Green at 162lb. And I assure you, Andrade destroys Green! Peace!
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04-26-2010, 05:02 PM	#51
Ramón GGG is Go(o)d Boy ESB Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,192 vCash: 420	Re: The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! 1. Bute 2. Ward 3. Dirrell
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04-26-2010, 05:03 PM	#52
bailey Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 11,906 vCash: 75	Re: The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! For top 3 at the moment id go 1. Bute 2. Ward 3. Kessler The reason for this order is that Ward has a win over Kessler who was #1 at the time but other than that he hasnt done as much as Bute overall yet (that may soon change). Butes win over Miranda was more destructive than Wards and he has some reasonable wins over Andrade, Berrio and Bika, so ive put Bute 1st, Ward 2nd. Kessler 3rd for his come back win over Froch. 4. Froch 5. Dirrell Ive tried to rate the fighters for what they have achieved rather than their potential
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Laudrup Gatekeeper ESB Full Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 368 vCash: 1908	Re: The top 3 SMW Official Thread!!! 1. Ward 2. Kessler 3. Dirrell (although Frochs latest 4 fights are impressive) Bute is not in because he hasnt beaten opposition to qualify. But he is up there at top 5.
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