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Old 10-12-2007, 03:40 PM   #31
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He had a strategy, OK it didnt work, but at least he had one, unlike Morales, his "strategy" was non-existent - a bit like your brain
Agreed. Barrera used a logical approach compared to Erik's emotions in trading blow for blow.
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:43 PM   #32
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Agreed. Barrera used a logical approach compared to Erik's emotions in trading blow for blow.
Thats the way I see it, but it failed, but it seems others here will only accept Barrera brawling and getting KTFO, that aint a gameplan to me, just senseless! for the record, Id have loved to have seen Barrera of 2000 or so smash Pac, but I think we need to appreciate his smarts also for fighting his fight!
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:45 PM   #33
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Yea? and what was his strategy? Do just enough to survive???

No wonder he's inferior to Morales..
Black, me and you could argue forever on this, so I guess we will have to agree to disagree, your entitled to your opinion, as I am mine, But....Barrera is no way inferior to Morales!
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:50 PM   #34
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Don't make up stories dumbass. I never said pacman was afraid of guzman.. WTF?? Lying ass bitch u got no credibility.

Ive mentioned in many threads that pacman would beat guzman down..

Barrera is terrified of pacman.
Make up stories? I have read your posts before. You said that he was either afraid of Guzman or Marquez, one of the two. Either way, your write sensationalist bullshit too often, period.
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:51 PM   #35
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Exactly my point.

I'm going to work guys. ACB, Peter5.. I value you're opinions and they really do make a lot of sense to me
What about Blacks opinions?
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:53 PM   #36
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You better get your facts straight before you come with that nonsense. Just shut up if don't have anything real to say instead of making up lies.. Even all the pac fans know that i never made such claim.
You didnt say that Pac wants no part of Marquez?
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:55 PM   #37
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Why wouldnt JMM want Pac, I gave Pac 2 rounds of their fight!
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:01 PM   #38
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Why wouldnt JMM want Pac, I gave Pac 2 rounds of their fight!
B/c right after his fight with Pac he told larry he didn't want the rematch. JMM's camp later on tried to retract that statement. Then of course team JMM asked for the whole HBO site fee for there purse, that how we got the Morlaes trilogy.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:03 PM   #39
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It's easy to say sitting here. Barrera came to win, with an intelligent gameplan similar to that which upset Hamed in 2001. Box, move and capitalize on mistakes. He was throwing a crafty shot to the body early to try and slow Pacquaio down.

Unfortunately, Pacquaio probably made less mistakes than Hamed did and Barrera has obviously declined physically since 2001. Ultimately, Barrera still had his moments which is more than Morales had in his third fight with Pacquaio.

I'm not knocking Morales - he's a legend - but Barrera had a better boxing brain. And I'd rather have gone out like MAB did than Morales did.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:05 PM   #40
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Agreed. Barrera used a logical approach compared to Erik's emotions in trading blow for blow.
Barrera is a great, but there was no pride in the way he fought. to have such a great career and fight your last round ever in such a manner was sad.

He will be remembered for better performances.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:05 PM   #41
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B/c right after his fight with Pac he told larry he didn't want the rematch. JMM's camp later on tried to retract that statement. Then of course team JMM asked for the whole HBO site fee for there purse, that how we got the Morlaes trilogy.
The point im making is that JMM isnt scared of Pac, why would he be, he beat him (although the cards didnt say so!) his whole career has been stalled by bad decisions from him and his camp!
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:06 PM   #42
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Why are you changing your words around like a little chick?
What does MArquez have to do with this?? Didnt you accuse me of saying that pacman ducked Guzman??
All I remember is a bunch of bullshit in all your posts like...

Pac gets schooled by Marquez, Pac gets KOd by Soto, Barrera is a bitch and he is scard of Pac, blah blah blah.

You have been called out by many posters here for hating on Pinoys, I sure as hell think your a hater or a troll.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:06 PM   #43
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It's easy to say sitting here. Barrera came to win, with an intelligent gameplan similar to that which upset Hamed in 2001. Box, move and capitalize on mistakes. He was throwing a crafty shot to the body early to try and slow Pacquaio down.

Unfortunately, Pacquaio probably made less mistakes than Hamed did and Barrera has obviously declined physically since 2001. Ultimately, Barrera still had his moments which is more than Morales had in his third fight with Pacquaio.

I'm not knocking Morales - he's a legend - but Barrera had a better boxing brain. And I'd rather have gone out like MAB did than Morales did.
Well said mate, If pac had engaged more, barrera was waiting to capitaise, but pac was more patient, therefore making barrera look even more cautious
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:07 PM   #44
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Barrera is a great, but there was no pride in the way he fought. to have such a great career and fight your last round ever in such a manner was sad.

He will be remembered for better performances.
From a Floyd fan, this suprises me. Floyd leaves a lot to be desired as far as going for the kill on most nights he fights.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:08 PM   #45
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The point im making is that JMM isnt scared of Pac, why would he be, he beat him (although the cards didnt say so!) his whole career has been stalled by bad decisions from him and his camp!
Most would argee that Team JMM did not appear eager to step in the ring with Pac again.
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