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Old 10-12-2007, 04:39 PM   #16
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Holly is gonna knock this fool out.

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Old 10-12-2007, 04:43 PM   #17
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Sultan isn't that good. Holyfield could win this. Anybody who gets decked by Ray Austin is extremely beatable. The only question in this fight is whether Holyfield has enough of his superior skills left to beat a guy like this. I think he does.
Your problem is everything revolves around chins, there is alot more variables that go into a fight besides your creepy chin obsession.Holy get's retired tomorrow or I'll stick my foot in my mouth.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:43 PM   #18
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Holyfield may want to gain speed by coming in light against Ibragimov, but this will likely have the opposite effect.

Holyfield weighed in at a startling 211.5 lbs. yesterday.
In his last bout he was a solid fighting trim 219.
This is a significant weight loss of mostly muscle, especially for a 45 year old warrior (6 days from now) who has put his body through war after war since turning pro in 1984.
Amazingly, Holyfield hasn't been as low as 211 since he fought Bobby Czyz over 11 years ago in May 1996.
This weight looks like a warning sign of overtraining.
Could a fierce competitor like Holyfield have possibly overtrained in hopes of attaining an historic 5th world title?

In the end, this effect will [slow] him down instead of speeding him up.
I expect Holyfield to tire noticably entering the mid rounds.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:52 PM   #19
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Go Holyfield!
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:02 PM   #20
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Holyfield looks tobe in great shape, I am rooting for him and would love to see him win. My final prediction Holyfield by KO.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:18 PM   #21
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Your problem is everything revolves around chins, there is alot more variables that go into a fight besides your creepy chin obsession.Holy get's retired tomorrow or I'll stick my foot in my mouth.
Make sure you wash those tootsies before you have to insert 'em in that orifice.

It's not all about Iggy's chin - he's just plain ol' mediocre overall. The question is whether Evander retains enough of his greatly superior ability to beat it. If he's degenerated below the Ray Austin level, he may be in trouble. I don't think he has.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:23 PM   #22
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Sultan isn't that good. Holyfield could win this. Anybody who gets decked by Ray Austin is extremely beatable. The only question in this fight is whether Holyfield has enough of his superior skills left to beat a guy like this. I think he does.
I've heard that theory "If Calvin Brock was down from feather fisted McCline..."
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:32 PM   #23
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Go Holyfield!!! One more time!
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:39 PM   #24
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:44 PM   #25
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I've heard that theory "If Calvin Brock was down from feather fisted McCline..."
Yeah, and didn't Wlad knock him the f*ck out???
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:48 PM   #26
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Yeah, and didn't Wlad knock him the f*ck out???
Is Wlad a light hitter too?
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:57 PM   #27
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Even though i picked Ibragimov in this one? I'll be happy if Holyfield does it

I hope he can even though the odds are against it.
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:23 PM   #28
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Holyfield may want to gain speed by coming in light against Ibragimov, but this will likely have the opposite effect.

Holyfield weighed in at a startling 211.5 lbs. yesterday.
In his last bout he was a solid fighting trim 219.
This is a significant weight loss of mostly muscle, especially for a 45 year old warrior (6 days from now) who has put his body through war after war since turning pro in 1984.
Amazingly, Holyfield hasn't been as low as 211 since he fought Bobby Czyz over 11 years ago in May 1996.
This weight looks like a warning sign of overtraining.
Could a fierce competitor like Holyfield have possibly overtrained in hopes of attaining an historic 5th world title?

In the end, this effect will [slow] him down instead of speeding him up.
I expect Holyfield to tire noticably entering the mid rounds.
I'm flip floppping whether 212 lbs will be good for Holyfield.

Obviously he has cut down on his weight lifting regimen to come that low.

I'd have preffered Holyfield to come in weighing 215 lbs, so that he'd have the muscle to Hold is own on the inside and be able to manhandle Sultan on the inside and walk him down.

My thinking now is that the Holyfield team thinks that Sultan is going to be darting in and running out, and that Holyfield has to be light on his feet to catch up with Sultan.
.....they also must want Holyfield to match Sultan's hand speed.


Does anybody know of a link besides FN's who does'nt really have a picture showing the entire upper body from waist up, where there are picture's depicting the fighters physiques???

211.5 does seem rather low for Holyfield at this stage in his career.
I dont know how often their are fighting events in Russia, but it could possibly be a case where the scales are off a few pounds, because really I dont notice anything different from the one picture that FN's has that would indicate to me that Holyfield has scaled down.
Holyfield's upper body from that side picture looks the same as it's been in his last several fight, as does his face.
His face does'nt have the drawn look from having lost any weight!
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:42 PM   #29
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Holyfield may want to gain speed by coming in light against Ibragimov, but this will likely have the opposite effect.

Holyfield weighed in at a startling 211.5 lbs. yesterday.
In his last bout he was a solid fighting trim 219.
This is a significant weight loss of mostly muscle, especially for a 45 year old warrior (6 days from now) who has put his body through war after war since turning pro in 1984.
Amazingly, Holyfield hasn't been as low as 211 since he fought Bobby Czyz over 11 years ago in May 1996.
This weight looks like a warning sign of overtraining.
Could a fierce competitor like Holyfield have possibly overtrained in hopes of attaining an historic 5th world title?

In the end, this effect will [slow] him down instead of speeding him up.
I expect Holyfield to tire noticably entering the mid rounds.
Its not significant in the slightest. Its only 8lbs. 8lbs which wouldnt have been purely musclemass. In anycase this simply means his metabolism has speeded up and Holy has been doing alot more cardio than normal. He will not tire in the later rounds thats for sure unless his on the end of a bad beating. To be honest it appears that Holy again has done the unthinkable and turned back father time.
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:45 PM   #30
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Could mean Holy is sick with a stomach flu or ate something that disagreed with him. Keep that in mind.
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