How do you rate Steve Collins?

[paddycfc]

Originally Posted by Dan684

Better than I do Calzaghe

a thought u liked calzagie dan ha

[nip102]

Originally Posted by barry big balls

As kid i thought he was great beating englands finest super middles benn and eubank but i am to young to remember seeing him get outclassed by mike mccallum.I since seen that fight and realised steve was limited in a few ways but really only the elite boxers like mccallum could do this to steve. If you were anything less than elite steve usually broke your heart with his granite chin and crazy work ethic. One of irelands best pros for me...

i know a fella that trains with mike in vegas got him to ask mike about stevie.his reponse was

"As far as Collins, he said Collins was in his opinion his toughest Fight. He remembered the crowd being so loud for Steve, and when it comes to Steve himself this is what he said:

"Ah'm 'ittin' 'im, 'ittin' 'im, trowin everytin' at 'im, and dis muddafucka laughin' at me. Tough sumabitch."

he also said
"Mike said he respected Watson a lot, but that he wasn't THAT good. Very strong, and a lot of heart in there, but basically a walking target"

[Dan684]

Originally Posted by paddycfc

a thought u liked calzagie dan ha

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[SouthpawSlayer]

legend

[GazOC]

Originally Posted by nip102

i know a fella that trains with mike in vegas got him to ask mike about stevie.his reponse was

"As far as Collins, he said Collins was in his opinion his toughest Fight. He remembered the crowd being so loud for Steve, and when it comes to Steve himself this is what he said:

"Ah'm 'ittin' 'im, 'ittin' 'im, trowin everytin' at 'im, and dis muddafucka laughin' at me. Tough sumabitch."

he also said
"Mike said he respected Watson a lot, but that he wasn't THAT good. Very strong, and a lot of heart in there, but basically a walking target"

Cheers.

[kidgloves]

I haven't seen any of his fights in years and have no interest in rewatching them but I remember his style being ugly and not very entertaing to watch. Didn't help that he came after Benn, Eubank and Watson from a selling to tv pov either. I'm sure he made good money but was very limited as a fighter and got through on sheer determination.

[paddycfc]

Originally Posted by Dan684

You're high

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ye i replyed m8

[KingCobra]

Highly. One of the best to come out of Ireland.

[nip102]

wish dunne had his chin

[AffectedToaster]

Originally Posted by nip102

wish dunne had his chin

your not the only one

[FIN]

Excellent fighter,one of the toughest fighters of recent times,iron chin,my dad who is a builder worked on a house next door to steve collins,said collins was a nice man,stopped and chatted to the lads every day..

[Primadonna Kool]

Originally Posted by atberry

Tony Thornton was top quality, though it looked like Steve lost and he was a big underdog, too. (Almost lost his ear that night!)

He took the McCallum fight at short notice as a 16-fight novice, and didn't disgrace himself after five rounds of anxiety (even had McCallum running away in the last rounds).

Reggie Johnson was as slick as a greaseball back then and it looked like Collins won.

Sumbu Kalambay made him look silly with his defence, but Steve outworked him and could've got the decision.

He'd been close to retiring after the Johnson fight.

He sort of went un-noticed under Eastwood and Hearn until outboxing and knocking out Chris Pyatt.

Then the Eubank thing with the hypnotism ofcourse... I thought he lost that fight clearly, though.

The 2nd Eubank fight saw Collins win 11 out of 12 rounds in my opinion, but with the messiest, most unskilled swarming style I have ever seen. Eubank suddenly looked shot that night, more likely weight-drained.

Collins kept that horrible marauding style for the rest of his career, that included two wins over a genuinely physically shot Benn, who quit both times while holding his own.

Collins was at his best against Pyatt and Eubank the 1st time, making less mistakes than in his younger days. But he showed his snappiest boxing and most movement against Tony Thornton and Kevin Watts in the 80s.

That terrible-looking maraud style seemed highly effective result-wise, winning 11 out of 12 rounds against pre-retirement Eubank and stopping Benn back-to-back, but I genuinely think Eubank that night and Benn on those nights were both at their worst-ever physically. I honestly don't think Collins was very good at that time.

No way did he win, 11 out of the 12 rounds.

What the fuck are you on.?

[lora]

Kalambay beat Collins by a wide margin imo.Steve hit nothing but gloves, arms and shoulders all fight.

[atberry]

Originally Posted by Primadonna Kool

No way did he win, 11 out of the 12 rounds.

What the fuck are you on.?

Clear as day to me.

(Eubank's level of performance had dropped dramatically, no snap at all.)

[icemax]

Collins was a bit limited BUT he was as tough as teak with a big jeart and would give any fighter absolute hell...top pro