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Old 05-03-2010, 07:00 PM   #31
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Old 05-03-2010, 07:03 PM   #32
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..id add leonard to that list apart from pryor and hagler(in his prime) he fought more or less everyone!...feel free to correct me if im wrong! haha
ya right defo leonard but hearns fought on for ages leonard finished in the 80s
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Old 05-03-2010, 08:33 PM   #33
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cant help but think that Pernell Whitaker deserves a bitter song than Limp Bizkit
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Old 05-03-2010, 09:32 PM   #34
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Pacquiao Ray Leanord, Pernell Whittaker, Wilfred Benitez, RJJ.
all of those except benitez and pacman... mayweather should rate higher than them
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:51 AM   #35
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Leonard, Whitaker.
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:54 AM   #36
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In every single measurable sporting or athletic endeavour, performances have improved over the years. There's absolutely no reason why boxing is any different
You can watch tape that shows the erosion of the skills compared to years gone by. Heavyweight is a great example of that. What a nonsense statement you made.
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:58 AM   #37
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Say from 1980 onwards

What fighters do you reckon were better fighters than Floyd Mayweather Jnr ?
Fighters I have higher in my alltime list (Floyd is at about 75 following the win over Shane, who was past prime, but Floyd showed his adaptability and that he didn't need to 'run' to win, thus improving my respect for him)

-Sweet Pea
-Hagler
-Hearns
-Pac
-Mike Spinks
-Mike McCallum
-Roy Jones
-Duran (did a lot of great work in the 70's as well though)
-Leonard
-Julio Cesar Chavez
-Arguello (again did his best work in the 70's arguably)

It's better to rank fighters once they've retired IMO though. With a win over Pac (a non controversial one) Floyd could climb as many as 50 places on my list. He still needs to prove himself IMO; Shane was not sharp, and his punch resistance has clearly dwindled.

Floyd can take a decent shot though; the two right hands that wobbled him early were pinpoint.

All the above fighters have as good/better levels of ability IMO, despite all their different styles. Floyds speed and reflexes are quite unreal even at 147 though, although he ISN'T DEFENSIVELY INFALLIBLE!!!!

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Old 05-04-2010, 03:00 AM   #38
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all of those except benitez and pacman... mayweather should rate higher than them
Why? Because he shouldn't.
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Old 05-04-2010, 03:02 AM   #39
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Jones's resume/record is absolutely gash considering his natural talent.
Still, wins over Toney, Hopkins (pre-prime) McCallum (post-prime but still very good) and Virgil Hill (got destroyed, arguably 'the man' at light heavy for some time) give him a fairly lofty ranking. I have him at no.45 currently
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Old 05-04-2010, 03:35 AM   #40
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No.67 in my current rankings
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Old 05-04-2010, 03:37 AM   #42
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Prime Don Curry

Ricardo Lopez

Julio Cesar Chavez

Mike McCallum

Salvador Sanchez

Felix Trinidad @ welterweight would have sparked Floyd

Even worse resume than Floyds.
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Mike Macallum is underrated.

Sparked out Don Curry.

Stopped Milton McCory.

Beat up Michael Watson.

Very good fighter the bodysnatcher.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:05 AM   #44
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Mayweather should try to beat Rocky Marciano record of 49-0, If Mayweather can make 50-0 and retire and never fight again he will be a boxing lengend for several generations and an all time great.

If he gets 50-0, I would rate him as being "The greatest".
Why would the number matter? Its who he beat to get there.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:10 AM   #45
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Still, wins over Toney, Hopkins (pre-prime) McCallum (post-prime but still very good) and Virgil Hill (got destroyed, arguably 'the man' at light heavy for some time) give him a fairly lofty ranking. I have him at no.45 currently
I think the lower end of the top 50 is about right.

I'm not a fan of Toney at all, between the Jones loss and Jirov win his record is shockingly bad, only a couple of decent wins in there, the rest are an assortment of bus drivers, plasterers and school teachers.

I'd say all things considered Hill is perhaps his best win
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