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Old 05-28-2013, 04:33 PM   #241
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Foreman said it as a HBO pundit after the Tyson fight and he said it in the 90s too. George does talk allot of BS so take it with a pinch of salt. Ali said it when they were at a function together, perhaps giving props to a current champ

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I am going to play devils advocate and point out that it was regarded as a week era at the time!
The period where you had Moorer/Foreman inter changing belt was considered weak mainly because the best fighters weren't champ, ie Lennox/Bowe.

People often considered Holyfield/Lennox less than exciting after having Tyson and then they got Wlad
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Old 05-28-2013, 04:47 PM   #242
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Foreman said it as a HBO pundit after the Tyson fight and he said it in the 90s too. George does talk allot of BS so take it with a pinch of salt. Ali said it when they were at a function together, perhaps giving props to a current champ
He also once said thaty Audley Harrison would be the next lineal champion after he knocked out Vitally Klitschko, on a visit to Britain.

I think he tells people what they want to hear.

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The period where you had Moorer/Foreman inter changing belt was considered weak mainly because the best fighters weren't champ, ie Lennox/Bowe.
No, people said the same thing when Lewis was champion.

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People often considered Holyfield/Lennox less than exciting after having Tyson and then they got Wlad
God help them next then!
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Old 05-28-2013, 07:35 PM   #243
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Lewis was not as well regarded in his era as many top 10 heavyweights.
Partly due to being British and partly due to lacking charisma.

Ali wasn't that well regarded by many for quite some time by many either.
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:41 AM   #244
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The 90s was one of the better eras. Holyfield, Bowe and Lewis and a notch below you had Tyson, Foreman and guys like Mercer and Morrison along with Michael Moorer.

Good times for the fans especially compared to what we have now.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:22 PM   #245
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Huh? I was clearly talking about today, now. Today's era.
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Old 05-29-2013, 12:26 PM   #246
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Huh? I was clearly talking about today, now. Today's era.
I acept that I might not be able to produce somebody at this precise moment in time, but an era has to be a certain length.
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I acept that I might not be able to produce somebody at this precise moment in time, but an era has to be a certain length.
I'd say ten years is about right.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:17 AM   #248
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Er, sorry, but it's not.

Louis never got caught with anything remotely as powerful as the right hand that Rahman threw. In fact the hardest shot he ever got caught with also knocked him out, when he went in against the Rock.

The only prominent champs I'm confident would have got up off the canvas following a shot like that are Holmes, Ali and Holyfield. Holmes because he took an almost identical shot against Shavers, Ali and Holmes because they both showed phenomenal chins in addition to their recuperative abilities. Louis had the latter but not the former.

And a punch flush on the kisser from Rahman, if he was ever stupid enough to get caught by it, would have taken him out.
But he DIDN'T get hit like that, did he? The shots that kayoed Lewis WERE huge but were examples of a bad defence if anything. Louis survived hard punches from Mauriello, Baer (Buddy and Max) and Galento. It's hard to compare power from fight to fight, but the fact is Joe avoided the type of punches that stopped Lewis, and managed to stand up to the ones he did take. Louis beat men of Lewis's size, too.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:24 AM   #249
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Even Holyfield got inside of Lennox
And won the rematch, but was robbed!
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Old 06-21-2013, 04:45 PM   #250
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Lennox by straight out KO within 0.2 rounds... Beyond any doubt!
I guess that you are a fairly strong proponent of modern fighters then.
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Old 06-22-2013, 03:26 PM   #251
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I'll just give credit where it's due Janitor and not entertain and back a notion that deep down I know could not really happen. It just so happens that most modern fighters would have no real trouble destroying their counterparts of 80 years past! Especially the HW champion of the world in the 1990's!

When you take a look at the 2 in question, watch them fight, check out their opponents and apply some common sense, it is crazy to think Joe Louis could compete with Lennox!

If Joe Louis was brought forward into the present and given the same training/nutrition and developed fighting and sparring with modern opponents he would probably have been competitive. He would be bigger, better and really be a different fighter altogether though! The one that was though would get pasted.

No disrespect against Joe Louis, he was a great champion. But Lennox Lewis! LENNOX LEWIS! Come on!
What Joe Louis had was timeless.

It is likely that he has never been surpassed as a finisher at heavyweight, and based on that alone he cannot be counted out against anybody, with or without the benefits of modern preparation.

A true finisher comes along once in a generation.

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Old 06-22-2013, 03:29 PM   #252
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There is nobody you can write Louis off against. I don't just say it about the fighters of the past 120 years but the next 120 years. Too good for writing off.

Having said that, there are good reasons to pick a handful of fighters over him and Lewis is one of them.
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Old 06-22-2013, 03:42 PM   #253
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There is nobody you can write Louis off against. I don't just say it about the fighters of the past 120 years but the next 120 years. Too good for writing off.

Having said that, there are good reasons to pick a handful of fighters over him and Lewis is one of them.
I think that Lennox Lewis gets a bit over rated these days.

Joe Louis had his turn at being over rated, so I guess its only fair that Lennox gets his turn.
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Old 06-22-2013, 06:35 PM   #254
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Louis gets dropped early, Lennox gets wild and gets clocked. Louis
establishes the jab, gets dropped twice more than gets the KO with a right
hand. Louis KO7
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:24 AM   #255
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Joe Louis-
6'2" with a 76" reach and about 205 Lbs.

Lennox Lewis-
6'5" with an 84" reach and about 245 Lbs.

Lewis would use his 8" reach advantage wisely. Lewis would be patient, use the left jab to keep Louis away and set up his other punches. Louis would have his moments. I see his rocking Lewis and maybe eve dropping him but in the end I see Lewis winning, maybe even by late round KO.
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