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Old 05-11-2010, 11:15 AM   #1
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Default Cleverley vs Pavlik

At 175.

Who wins and how?
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:16 AM   #2
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Pavlik TKO

Cleverly nowhere near the finished product, still has too many gaps in his defence.
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:18 AM   #3
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Pavlik brutal stoppage.
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Old 05-11-2010, 11:21 AM   #4
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Pavlik for at least a year.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:27 PM   #5
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Cleverly is sloppy as **** but talented.
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:36 PM   #6
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Clev will box his face off...
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:36 PM   #7
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Just like Martinez did...
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:45 PM   #8
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Pavlik has power, limited boxing ability. But a move up in weight class should be a good move for him, as boiling to middle may have been hindering him. What weight was his fight with hopkins at?
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Old 05-11-2010, 12:57 PM   #9
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Pavlik has power, limited boxing ability. But a move up in weight class should be a good move for him, as boiling to middle may have been hindering him. What weight was his fight with hopkins at?
I think it was 170, could be wrong though.
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Old 05-11-2010, 01:00 PM   #10
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At Light Heavy I would say Cleverly. I Pavliks only performance there was shite. People make too much of what he was at Middle. It's not the same thing.
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Old 05-11-2010, 01:01 PM   #11
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i think 170n catchweight
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Old 05-11-2010, 01:10 PM   #12
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Cleverley all the way at 175, Pavlik was good as the bigger man at 160, but at 175, he'd be dwarfed and would be a sucker for Clevs movement and newly found punch power. Only ppl wanting nookie with a trailer trash nympho would say otherwise.
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Old 05-11-2010, 01:19 PM   #13
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Pavlik was 169 for Hopkins, he was 174 on fight night.

I'd favour Cleverly to win on points, but needs to tighten up on the defence, shipped too many punches for my liking against Brancalion
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Old 05-11-2010, 01:43 PM   #14
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There is no way to call this accurately, Cleverly has never faced anybody that can punch with power. His defence can be sloppy so its nearly impossible to be sure how he stands up to Pavlik even if he's capable of outboxing him.
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Old 05-11-2010, 02:04 PM   #15
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There is no way to call this accurately, Cleverly has never faced anybody that can punch with power. His defence can be sloppy so its nearly impossible to be sure how he stands up to Pavlik even if he's capable of outboxing him.
How would you rate Pavlik's power at 175? (Surmising of course)

He's got heavy hands at 160, but not major one punch power, I can't see him hurting many people at 175.
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