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Old 05-11-2014, 11:38 AM   #1
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Default 1980's heavyweights vs 1990's heavyweights

The early 1990's was a great time for heavyweight boxing.Tyson, Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe and Foreman are all in many peoples top ten. The early 1980's were dominated by a truly great Larry Holmes there is no doubt that he could hang with and certainly have a great chance of beating all the heavyweights of the early 1990's in his day. But their were a number of other good heavyweights in the early 80's who when at their best were very impressive. How do you think guys like Pinklon Thomas, Mike Weaver, Tim Witherspoon, Gerrie Coetzee, Gerry Cooney, John Tate and Greg Page would fair when at their peaks against the great heavyweights of the early 90's? Would they been competitive in the title picture if they had they come along in the early 90's? Is there any match ups in particular where you'd especially favor the fighter from the 80's?
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Old 05-11-2014, 01:59 PM   #2
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I think Larry Holmes beats all of the 90's guys, but I don't think his comrades could beat the 90's guys .
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Old 05-11-2014, 03:29 PM   #3
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Would this include an 80s and 90s Tyson fighting each other?
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Old 05-11-2014, 04:17 PM   #4
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Would this include an 80s and 90s Tyson fighting each other?

No, I'm more looking to compare early 1990's to early 1980's.
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Old 05-11-2014, 04:59 PM   #5
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The 90s fighters were better, with one obvious exception.

Larry Holmes.

He gave a boxing leasson to Ray Mercer, who arguably beat Lennox Lewis!
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Old 05-11-2014, 05:55 PM   #6
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Big fan of 80's heavies. Tons of talent from guys who quit working hard after winning the title. Seemed like winning the championship was their only goal. In my opinion, I think the 80's boxers at their best are on equal footing with the 90's punchers...and maybe even, dare I say it, better!?
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Old 05-11-2014, 06:56 PM   #7
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80,s were better.......90,s also very good though
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:17 PM   #8
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I also give an slight edge to the 80s guys. Would have been some great match-ups like Gerry Cooney vs Razor Ruddock, Tim Witherspoon vs Evender Holyfield, Michael Dokes vs Ray Mercer.
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Old 05-11-2014, 07:57 PM   #9
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I think the early 80s was just as good if not better. Early 90's just seems more deadly of an era because you see the championship changes around a bit. You got tyson, Douglas, evander, bowe etc. You got all these guys in the mix, which does make for more excitement but not necessarily better. I think Holmes is sometimes underrated, though some guys on here think he is the greatest thing since sliced bread. He bridged a gap between Ali and Tyson, and the fact he was so head and shoulders better than his competition, makes them seem like they weren't that good.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:01 PM   #10
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No, I'm more looking to compare early 1990's to early 1980's.

Then in that case, Larry Holmes is the best out of those periods, but the early 90's had more depth. Comparing the field you Had Mike Weaver, Gerrie Coetzee, John Tate, Gerry Cooney, Greg Page, Trevor Berick, Michael Dokes and a green Witherspoon as the best of the early 80's. In the early 90's you had Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Riddick Bowe, Lennox Lewis, Razor Ruddock, Michael Moorer, Ray Mercer, Tommy Morrison and a Comeback Foreman... You also had aged versions of Tucker and Witherspoon who were still pretty good. Overall, the early 90's was a better era, with the one sole exception of prime Holmes for the early 80's.
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Old 05-11-2014, 08:59 PM   #11
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I don't see how any of the 80's guys other than Holmes can come close to Tyson, Lewis , Holyfield and Bowe , assuming we are talking about really the 88 Tyson and a prime Bowe. Page, Witherspoon, the two most talented, were inconsistent and often unmotivated. I like the 90's guys by quite a bit.
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Old 05-11-2014, 09:44 PM   #12
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1990's.

Holyfield, Lewis, a still very good Tyson, Bowe, a still very good Holmes, a still very good Foreman, Ibeabuchi, Byrd, Tua, Moorer, Golota, McCall, Bruno, Mercer, Morrison, Ruddock, a still good Witherspoon, Rahman, Maskaev, Botha, Schulz, Savarese, Briggs, Grant, Akinwande, Seldon, Bert Cooper, Joe Hipp, Alex Garcia, Butterbean
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1990's.

Holyfield, Lewis, a still very good Tyson, Bowe, a still very good Holmes, a still very good Foreman, Ibeabuchi, Byrd, Tua, Moorer, Golota, McCall, Bruno, Mercer, Morrison, Ruddock, a still good Witherspoon, Rahman, Maskaev, Botha, Schulz, Savarese, Briggs, Grant, Akinwande, Seldon, Bert Cooper, Joe Hipp, Alex Garcia, Butterbean
Butterbean...
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:06 PM   #14
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The guy's in the 80's were good, but i would give an edge to the heavy's of the 90's, i believe the division was more exciting in the 90's too, Lewis, Bowe , Morrison, Foreman, Tua, Ike, Golata, Mercer, Holyfield, Ruddock, Tyson after he got out of the clink, even the gatekeepers, Moorer, Bert Cooper, and Frans Botha were competitive and fun to watch...

Then in the late 90's the Klitchkos started to generate noise, along with Rahman, Sanders, and the always bizarre and unpredictable Oliver Mccall..

BTW The LEWIS OF THE 90'S WOULD HAVE BEATEN THE HOLMES OF THE 80'S
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:17 PM   #15
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Butterbean...
Just seeing if anyone would notice. Joe hipp and Alex Garcia were not greats either, but could be fun to watch. Alexander Zolkin, Mike Hunter, Orlin Norris, I'm just throwing out names of the guys who were around back then. They all served a purpose.
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