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Old 05-16-2010, 05:27 PM   #16
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We complain that promoters match fighters cautiously yet we are the first ones to write someone off as soon as they lose a fight
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Old 05-16-2010, 05:31 PM   #17
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but he has found his level no gettin around that hes a good euro fighter maybe fringe world title
Then so has Khan, considering Prescott's even worse than Katsidis. So has Ortiz considering he lost to Maidana, who lost to Kotelnik, who lost to Khan. So has Maidana for losing to Kotelnik, who lost to Khan, who lost to Prescott, who lost to Mitchell, who lost to Katsidis, who lost to Diaz, who lost to Malignaggi, who lost to Khan, who lost to Prescott... etc., etc.,

It just gets out of hand. Mitchell lost to Katsidis because he fought like an inexperienced novice. Do you think he'll ever do that again?

Losses are sometimes the best thing that can happen to a fighter, especially when it happens at a younger age, pre-prime, where their style can still change.

It's not like Katsidis is a bum, he's a nightmare for everyone he faces. He got beaten by Casamayor and controlled by Diaz. One a sharp counter puncher who was looking for that left hand all night and finally landed the perfect one, and the other a skilled, smart and quick handed pressure-volume puncher who had the tactical nous and physicality to keep Katsidis turning. Who else at lightweight's going to beat him, other than JMM?
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Old 05-16-2010, 05:32 PM   #18
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i think mitchell is too good for murray. murray is one fighter i think is overrated. if you put him in with katsidis, the same would of happened.
I totally agree with you that Katsidis would bash Murray up...

I just think that Murray would not allow Mitchell to tee off on him and get a pattern of boxing going...

I think it would be a great contest, very similar to the Johannsen fight... I think Murray would beat him on a SD...
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Old 05-16-2010, 05:34 PM   #19
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It'd be crazy to put Murray in with Katsidis at this stage in his career. He needs to fight some top ten guys, same as Mitchell should have done.
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Old 05-16-2010, 05:35 PM   #20
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We glorify the '0' too much over here now.
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Old 05-16-2010, 05:47 PM   #21
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It's funny how one loss kills all the talk about one fighter on the general.

Linares loses one fight and everyone jumps ship same with:

Antillion
Victor Ortiz
Angulo
Ponce De Leon
Rey Bautista
Bernabe Concepcion

The list goes on and on.
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Old 05-16-2010, 06:48 PM   #22
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Before you lose your potential is unlimited. Then it isn't.

Comparing Mitchell to Khan is off in my opinion. Khan's loss showed his one huge weakness but he still had plenty of strengths in his locker. Mitchell's weakness was...just not being good enough. In all departments. That's why the loss is so bad for his rep.
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Old 05-16-2010, 06:55 PM   #23
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Time will tell. Wlad Klitschko suffered brutal losses, but has done extraordinarily well considering. But the truth is most fighters don't get over their first loss so well. In Mitchell's favour though, getting stopped early doesn't seem to harm a fighter as much as getting a boxing lesson for most of the fight. His character is most important now
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:11 PM   #24
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All about who the loss is to, how you lost and most importantly how you come back from it. Learn and make necessary changes to your training, regime or lifestyle or put it as an off day, carry on and look forward to more 'off' days in the future.

I'll be thrown off the forum for this but 1 thing boxing loses out to mma is the crazy pressure put on fighters to stay undefeated. How do we learn and improve in life? Often by making mistakes, just the same in boxing. Make a mistake getting caught, not applying right tactics, poor preparation you run the risk of getting beat. So what ya gonna do next??

Intentionally left out individual cases it applies to everyone. Getting beats not the end of the world simple as
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:42 PM   #25
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It should not matter but these days fighters get a lot of shit for losing more so if its by stoppage or ko.Very few fighters go thier whole career unbeaten so it really should not be made into such a big thing.
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:50 PM   #26
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The sooner modern boxing ditches losing your 0, losing a fight, means, the end of the world - the better.
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:57 PM   #27
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It all depends where you loose your 0, this is the first real world class fighter Kev has fought and to loose your 0 and loose it big at the first hurdle of this level, could be very damaging not just for his record but mentally, he might question himself if he really belongs at this level. Kev can come back for sure he is young enough but will he not sure.
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Old 05-16-2010, 10:28 PM   #28
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Then so has Khan, considering Prescott's even worse than Katsidis. So has Ortiz considering he lost to Maidana, who lost to Kotelnik, who lost to Khan. So has Maidana for losing to Kotelnik, who lost to Khan, who lost to Prescott, who lost to Mitchell, who lost to Katsidis, who lost to Diaz, who lost to Malignaggi, who lost to Khan, who lost to Prescott... etc., etc.,

It just gets out of hand. Mitchell lost to Katsidis because he fought like an inexperienced novice. Do you think he'll ever do that again?

Losses are sometimes the best thing that can happen to a fighter, especially when it happens at a younger age, pre-prime, where their style can still change.

It's not like Katsidis is a bum, he's a nightmare for everyone he faces. He got beaten by Casamayor and controlled by Diaz. One a sharp counter puncher who was looking for that left hand all night and finally landed the perfect one, and the other a skilled, smart and quick handed pressure-volume puncher who had the tactical nous and physicality to keep Katsidis turning. Who else at lightweight's going to beat him, other than JMM?

That post is simply beautiful.

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Off/On topic....

Heres me sitting im a pjs wondering at all the Euro Level Fighter replys too !!!!!!!!

Euro level as i got stopped by a worldly experienced contender in a weight category thats new to me.

Seriously, Mitchells now Euro level, at this weight, his previous weight ?

Whats he done to garner such a rep ?

Kev Mitchell wonders also and this is by no means a slight on the boy either.

Aye.
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:01 PM   #29
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in your own city, in your football teams stadium, infront of 30,000 fans, in the 3rd round by KO.... its bad!! i was surprised at how easily he was hurt. just shows how powerful katsiedis is.
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Old 05-16-2010, 11:08 PM   #30
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just shows how powerful katsiedis is.
He's can be brawler no doubt, but take the Diaz fight or even the Earl one... lots and lots of trading.
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