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Old 10-15-2007, 04:41 PM   #16
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38. Far too old to be going back under normal circumstances, but after working in the cesspool-like environment of call centers for more than a decade, I decided it was time for a change.

So, I'm in college, taking library tech, and this is part of a research project that I'm conducting.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:41 PM   #17
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I was nearly right.

Good for you, best of luck with it.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:42 PM   #18
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But aren't they in school up to mid forties in the US?
They go to school in the States???

(I'm from Canada, btw.)
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:43 PM   #19
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My bad!
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:45 PM   #20
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I do like that book - but i've never read a book so keen to sweep losses under the carpet/excuse them, and i'm including SRR literature in that.
This is true, but in fairness, they also swept many wins under the carpet, too.

It was kind of the style in which Fitsgerald recapped his career.

For example, I seem to remember him specifically mentioning that Ezzard Charles was one fighter who represented a true nightmare for Moore. On the flipside, I remember him saying very little about some of his victories.

Of course, some fights received much more attention than others. Two examples of each that come to mind, his victory over Durelle (which largely defined the book) and his loss against Marciano.

I just think when you're dealing with someone who had SO MANY fights, a lot of details wind up getting passively overlooked. Though, in fairness, I've never read a book about another boxer who had as many bouts as Moore had.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:49 PM   #21
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I do like that book - but i've never read a book so keen to sweep losses under the carpet/excuse them, and i'm including SRR literature in that.
LOL, what are you saying...

On the Marciano defeat Page 121

The referee:

"(The Rock) slugged home combinations like a cyclone-by actual count 53- before he caught Moore in the corner"

Do not know about you, but surely rather than count to 53 Kessler (1955 or not) ahould of stopped it?

An (unnamed) insider of the Marciano camp:

"I don't know how Rocky beat that dude?"
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:56 PM   #22
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I just think when you're dealing with someone who had SO MANY fights, a lot of details wind up getting passively overlooked. Though, in fairness, I've never read a book about another boxer who had as many bouts as Moore had.
Of course you are right.

There was a decision to be made here - the one he made or the really, really hard one with the really, really long road and go for it. You're looking at 500 plus pages, but that would be the book. That book would have to be on any list.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:57 PM   #23
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"I don't know how Rocky beat that dude?"

I do like that one.

Moore seemed to have that affect on people - like a mongoose he hypnotised them into believing he is better than he actually his...maybe you too -
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:59 PM   #24
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I do like that one.

Moore seemed to have that affect on people - like a mongoose he hypnotised them into believing he is better than he actually his...maybe you too -
It's funny, because I, too, have always remembered that specific line long after I read the book.

Having rewatched the fight recently, and seeing Moore's early dominance through the first four rounds, I can see where that quote came from.
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:00 PM   #25
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I do like that one.

Moore seemed to have that affect on people - like a mongoose he hypnotised them into believing he is better than he actually his...maybe you too -
Maybe; the book undoubtedly helped Moore up to #4 on my all-time list... I think I might need to read more on Charles and Burley!
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:03 PM   #26
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It's funny, because I, too, have always remembered that specific line long after I read the book.

Having rewatched the fight recently, and seeing Moore's early dominance through the first four rounds, I can see where that quote came from.
I too scored rounds 1-3 for Moore. I think if he was five years younger he might have pulled it off. He knew, at his age, with Rocky's workrate, he couldn't be out of the firing zone for any length of time.
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:03 PM   #27
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Maybe; the book undoubtedly helped Moore up to #4 on my all-time list... I think I might need to read more on Charles and Burley!
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Old 10-15-2007, 05:04 PM   #28
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Old 10-15-2007, 11:31 PM   #29
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Boxing Babylon by Nigel Collins.
Rocky Marciano the Rock of his times.
If you can find them the auto bios on Jack Dempsey and Joe Louis. Yes they both (With the help of a ghost writer of couse) wrote there own bios.

Also Bad ******* a bio on Jack Johnson.

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Old 10-16-2007, 12:50 AM   #30
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You have it on your list already, but Unforgiveable Blackness is an amazing experience. Truly awful in many respects to have to read that stuff, but the sourcing is impeccable. This was a labour of love.

I haven't read it, but I've heard that Kevin Mitchell's "War, Baby" (Benn vs. McClellan) is very good.

"A far more balanced reassessment of a single contest is [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] “War, Baby” which recounts the 1995 fight between Nigel Benn and Gerald McClellan. Mitchell recounts the fight in great detail, using it as the springboard for an exploration of violence and the human desire to observe it. The book is also an update on McClellan’s present condition and a reminder of the dangers inherent every time a fighter steps into the ring."


http://www.fightbeat.com/article_detail.php?AT=482

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