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Old 05-21-2010, 05:22 PM   #1
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Default The proposed 140 tournament structure......me no like!

Does anyone else feel suggested formation of the Light-Welterweight tournament is not sufficient enough to determine the number one fighter of the division? Currently the following is trying to be pushed forward:

SF1 - Khan vs Maidana
SF2 - Bradley vs Alexander

Now let’s just go ahead with this scenario......Khan gets by Maidana, and Bradley edges out Alexander. Khan then goes on to defeat Bradley in the final, and is declared the 140 king.

So will this end the story right there? That's it? Khan is no longer required to fight Alexander? Or Bradley required to fight Maidana? Or Maidana to fight Alexander? Will these potential match-ups (which are equally as mouth watering as each other) risk being elapsed?

Why aren't they considering a format like the Super 6, where ALL contests are required to face each other; thus eliminating the chance to take a short cut to the top. I don't know about you guys, but this talent rich division can't go ahead with out making these guys fight each other at least once.

What do you guys think?
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:32 PM   #2
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The Super 6 is not the best format. 1 of the 6 already cannot continue. The fight delays push the entire thing back each time they have 1. They don't even have the 6 best SMW's in the world competing.

At 140, nobody is ducking anybody except for maybe Khan. Bradley and Alexander will fight anyone at anytime. Maidana is the same way. The only thing I see that I would like a 140 tourney to produce is that Khan has to fight the winner of Bradley Alexander. To me though, Bradley and Alexander should be seeded 1 and 2 and face the other guys who should be the lower seeds. It should go Khan vs Alexander and Bradley vs Maidana. Why does Khan get the weaker draw like he is the #1 seed?
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:38 PM   #3
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The Super 6 is not the best format. 1 of the 6 already cannot continue. The fight delays push the entire thing back each time they have 1. They don't even have the 6 best SMW's in the world competing.

At 140, nobody is ducking anybody except for maybe Khan. Bradley and Alexander will fight anyone at anytime. Maidana is the same way. The only thing I see that I would like a 140 tourney to produce is that Khan has to fight the winner of Bradley Alexander. To me though, Bradley and Alexander should be seeded 1 and 2 and face the other guys who should be the lower seeds. It should go Khan vs Alexander and Bradley vs Maidana. Why does Khan get the weaker draw like he is the #1 seed?
I guess you've not been keeping up with the news

Khan gets maidana cos its his mandatory, hes been accused of ducking him for a while and everybody has been calling him to face a puncher, so its that simple. I dont get why people complain about Bradley having to face Alexandra, do boxing fans not wanna see good fights.
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:40 PM   #4
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Because a Super Six tournament format takes forever.

And I honestly don't think there will be a unification any time soon. Bradley doesn't want Alexander.
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:41 PM   #5
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The Super 6 is not the best format. 1 of the 6 already cannot continue. The fight delays push the entire thing back each time they have 1. They don't even have the 6 best SMW's in the world competing.

At 140, nobody is ducking anybody except for maybe Khan. Bradley and Alexander will fight anyone at anytime. Maidana is the same way. The only thing I see that I would like a 140 tourney to produce is that Khan has to fight the winner of Bradley Alexander. To me though, Bradley and Alexander should be seeded 1 and 2 and face the other guys who should be the lower seeds. It should go Khan vs Alexander and Bradley vs Maidana. Why does Khan get the weaker draw like he is the #1 seed?
Khan is the one who's ducking? Go read BS. And catch up with the news. Khan is willing to fight the top guys. Bradley Isn't. Bradley wants no part of Alexander.
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:41 PM   #6
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i guess you are following boxing with a subjective view
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:42 PM   #7
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The Super 6 is not the best format. 1 of the 6 already cannot continue. The fight delays push the entire thing back each time they have 1. They don't even have the 6 best SMW's in the world competing.

At 140, nobody is ducking anybody except for maybe Khan. Bradley and Alexander will fight anyone at anytime. Maidana is the same way. The only thing I see that I would like a 140 tourney to produce is that Khan has to fight the winner of Bradley Alexander. To me though, Bradley and Alexander should be seeded 1 and 2 and face the other guys who should be the lower seeds. It should go Khan vs Alexander and Bradley vs Maidana. Why does Khan get the weaker draw like he is the #1 seed?
Ever since he signed to GBP, people have been crying and moaning about him 'ducking' Maidana. Now he's gone out and said "I'll fight Maidana next", he's still ducking?

As for Bradley will fight anyone, well that's not exactly true is it. He's not shown any signs of being keen to take up Alexander's challenge.

However I do understand your point about Khan getting the weaker draw. Which is why I suggest the Super 6 structure be adopted, as none of the fighters are able to avoid facing one another. And seeing as though there are only 4 contestants, the fighter's route to being crowned number one, consists of only 4 fights. Any potential fight delays, will be minor and not considered that much of a problem
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:48 PM   #8
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Because a Super Six tournament format takes forever.

And I honestly don't think there will be a unification any time soon. Bradley doesn't want Alexander.
But this will only contest 4 fighters. And as mentioned in my above post, a fighter's journey will only consist of 4 fights maximum. This competition will be completed easily within 18 months.
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:48 PM   #9
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Not much of a tournament anyway with only 4 men in a knockout format, they would be better of expanding the tournament to 8 men and using the knockout format with matches being decided by a random draw.

It's the format they should have used instead of the super 6 too.
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:50 PM   #10
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:51 PM   #11
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better than no tournement!
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Old 05-21-2010, 05:53 PM   #12
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They should go their separate ways for a year, then try some kind of tournament. Alexander and Khan JUST made their BAD debut. Bradley hasn't even fought on HBO yet. Have people forgotten how to build up big fights? When people actually know who Bradley, Alexander, and Khan are, then the fights will happen.
It's precisely this reason why I don't think the tournament will even begin this year. Rightfully so in my opinion. I'd prefer it if the guys involved build their profiles a little more
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Old 05-21-2010, 06:38 PM   #13
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Khan is the one who's ducking? Go read BS. And catch up with the news. Khan is willing to fight the top guys. Bradley Isn't. Bradley wants no part of Alexander.
Yeah and Khan was also willing to fight Maidana before taking on Pauli. Don't believe every bullshit you hear
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Old 05-21-2010, 06:46 PM   #14
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super six format sucks! It would be much better if the tourny was no longer than a year. After so long, you lose interest in the tournament anyways. I say Maidana stops Khan in the mid to late rounds.

Khan's face showed the effects of Paulie's punches; imagine what Maidana's punches will do.

Bradley takes Alexander in a close decision.
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Old 05-21-2010, 06:58 PM   #15
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If we had a decent ranking system that the 4 major sanctioning bodies would all agree on, tournaments would not be necessary. But that's just a pipe dream unfortunately.
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