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View Poll Results: Vitali's Career Defining Moment?
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Old 06-08-2010, 01:34 PM   #166
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Lennox was always overweight. I think he and Vitali are the worst HW champions to ever disgrace the ring. I didn't even tune in to that fight. Anyway, Vitali's defining moment is the loss to Chris Byrd: it shows what a real champion is not made of.
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Old 06-08-2010, 02:51 PM   #167
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What's Lewis career defining moment?

Beating a shot Tyson while hugging him 90 times? Rematching a drug addicted McCall where Lennox couldn't knock down a guy who stood in front of him with no guard? Or maybe it was the 24 rounds of bore and hugfest against a steroid abusing ex-cruiserweight Holyfield?

The more I think about it the more it becomes obvious that beating Vitali was Lewis' most exciting fight and his best altogether win. Never has Lewis beaten a man who after losing to Lewis went on to be a universally recognized belt holder. Never has Lewis shown more will, heart and determination in a fight.
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Old 06-08-2010, 02:56 PM   #168
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And he got laid out because he was totally gassed, due to being out of shape... just like in the Oliver McCall fight.
no one is saying lewis was out of shape for the mccall fight.

now please go away.
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Old 06-08-2010, 02:58 PM   #169
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Lennox was always overweight. I think he and Vitali are the worst HW champions to ever disgrace the ring. I didn't even tune in to that fight. Anyway, Vitali's defining moment is the loss to Chris Byrd: it shows what a real champion is not made of.
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:24 PM   #170
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Don't forget when Lewis outboxed, outjabbed, and outhustled the mismatched Golota.
what are you on about.

aren't you the one who allways praises golota?
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:40 PM   #171
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Vitali certainly doesn't have an ATG resume but considering he suffered a 4 year lay off just after he reached the elite level, that isn't that bad in an era of infrequent top 10 match making. Actually got interested and came up with these stats.

Top 5 Ring Victories of other successful contemporary heavies:

ATG retired Ring Champion Lewis:

Golota #5
Holyfield #1
Grant #3
Tua #5
Rahman, Ring Champion
Mike Tyson #2

Total 6


Active Ring Champion, Wlad:

Chambers #4
Chageav #3
Byrd #1

Total: 3

Former Ring Champion, Rahman

Lennox Lewis, Ring Champion
Monte Barret #5

Total: 2

Former Belt Holder, Byrd

David Tua #5
Holyfield #4

Total: 2

Retired Belt Holder, Ruiz

Holyfield #4
Kirk Johnson #5

Total: 2


Former Belt Holder, Peter

#3 Oleg
#4 Toney

Total: 2
you missed the haye fight for ruiz.
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:48 PM   #172
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That's crazy, Vitali chased the rematch like a desperate man. Even had a face to face meeting with Lennox in hopes of convincing him into agreeing to a rematch:




Lennox Lewis's mum stopped rematch, says Vitali Klitschko


[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] has revealed how [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]' mum stopped him getting a rematch with the former world heavyweight champion.

Lewis beat Klitschko in June 2003 in controversial circumstances, retaining his [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] title when the fight was stopped after the sixth round in [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].

The Ukrainian had a deep cut above his left eye but led on the judges' scorecards when officials ruled he could not continue.

In the referee's opinion the cut had been caused by a punch, which meant that Lewis was automatically declared the winner.

If it had been ruled that the cut had been caused by a headbutt, Klitschko would have won the title as he was ahead on the scorecards.

Plans for an eagerly-anticipated rematch never materialised, with Klitschko yesterday offering an interesting explanation for why that was the case.

"Lennox promised me but his mum decided he wasn't going to fight," said the 38-year-old ahead of the Laureus World Sports Awards in [Only registered and activated users can see links. ].

"He invited me to [Only registered and activated users can see links. ], without managers, he said he wanted to talk just together. I came to the room and his mum is there. We talked for two hours and his mum was looking at me and scanning me.

"After that I went away and he called me a couple of hours later and said 'Sorry, but no'. I felt it wasn't his decision, his mum decided. I tried to change his decision, but it's difficult.

"But I was appreciative to Lennox Lewis that I got the chance to prove my skills against the toughest fighter in the world.

"But he was lucky, because I was ahead but the doctor stopped the fight with the cut."
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you missed the haye fight for ruiz.

Wins only. Still we have Vitali, Ruiz, Rahman, and Byrd all kind of in the same boat for now with Wlad pulling close to Lewis. Pretty interesting stat, has me curious about other greats now.

Think Marciano probably has 9 or 10 wins over Ring top 5 fighters. Ali and Louis are probably up there as well.
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Old 06-08-2010, 03:56 PM   #174
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Exactly. It was just an act.

Did he think that he "desperate act" after the Lewis fight was going to get the Doctor's decision reversed?

It was just a show.

Vitali knew that fighting an old Great was lose lose.

Even if he had beaten Lewis it would have been "so what?". Just how these things work.
it wasn't an act by vitali,he really wanted the rematch.

most of what you say in this thread is just too stupid for words.
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Wins only. Still we have Vitali, Ruiz, Rahman, and Byrd all kind of in the same boat for now with Wlad pulling close to Lewis. Pretty interesting stat, has me curious about other greats now.

Think Marciano probably has 9 or 10 wins over Ring top 5 fighters. Ali and Louis are probably up there as well.
misread your post,my bad.
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Either your trolling your way through this thread (good job btw), or you have some serious issues concerning Vit Klit

Pot calling kettle black anyone?

According to you VK lost only because of an off target grazing punch! Complete troll job - explain how that generates the numerous cuts over VK''s face.


Absolutely irrelevant who was in front - VK was picked and slashed apart by an old Lewis and acted like a spoilt brat after. Shit - he even tried to kick Lewis when he fell down!
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:49 PM   #177
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by an old Lewis !
That *old Lewis* was only 37 at the time. Vitali is now 38 and taking everyone he fights to the cleaners in one onesided affair after another.

Don't give me that Lewis was old and Lewis was overweight nonsense. He was not old for a heavyweight, and he was only 5 pounds over his ideal weight. 5 pounds is nothing for a 245 pound fighter who stands 6 foot 5.

Try again.
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:51 PM   #178
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it wasn't an act by vitali,he really wanted the rematch.

most of what you say in this thread is just too stupid for words.

So what if he wanted the rematch - he sure didn't earn it. He had his chance, failed and in the process got busted up badly.

And why should Lewis have waited for Dr Fragile and how long for? Seems VK spent the better part of the next couple of years getting injured and retiring!
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That *old Lewis* was only 37 at the time. Vitali is now 38 and taking everyone he fights to the cleaners in one onesided affair after another.

Don't give me that Lewis was old and Lewis was overweight nonsense. He was not old for a heavyweight, and he was only 5 pounds over his ideal weight. 5 pounds is nothing for a 245 pound fighter who stands 6 foot 5.

Try again.
Age is a relative thing and and Lewis had well signalled his intention not to drag his career on and on with meaningless challenges. Add to the fact that he started in the game well before VK and lack of motivation to go on and that ages a fighter.

Physical stats dont tell the whole story.


The fact that you bring up VK and his one sided victories over the scrubs and recycled Lewis victims that make up the HW scene today shows what a wise decision it was not to wait around for DR Fragile.


BTW selecting 4 words out of a post is just stupid.

Take your own advice and try again.

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Old 06-09-2010, 01:13 AM   #180
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I'd say it's being stopped by an out of shape shot Lennox Lewis.
That is what he will be remembered for.
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