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Old 10-17-2007, 06:59 AM   #1
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Default Who were defensive fighters with good power?

If you look at defensive fighters, you will see that often they don't have that much power. Usually it's a stylistic thing: defensive fighters don't often plant their feet and fire a shot. Guys like Pep, Whitaker, Ali, Byrd, Young, Mayweather, Tunney, etc are all great at defense but lack a punch.

So which fighters had a very good defense but could also punch? I'm talking about a defensively, non-agressive styled boxer, by the way. So while Tyson had an excellent defense in his prime, he doesn't qualify because he fights like a puncher.

Anyway, my first pick would be Jersey Joe Walcott. He was not agressive and often on the backfoot, but his right hand carried some serious power. He put Louis on his ass multiple times, knocked Marciano down (the only time he seemed to be a bit hurt, contrary to Moore's flash knockdown) and of course he has a beautiful one-punch KO over Ezzard Charles.
Any others?
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:15 AM   #2
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Walcott was one of the best and he fell short by fighting a still dangerous Louis #1 ATG and a young relentless Marciano # 2 ATG and he had Louis down 4 times and reallt won there 1st fight and had Rocky down in there Classic 1st fight....a prime Walcott would upset many past, present guys
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:24 AM   #3
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Burley had incredible power but tended towards defece as he was fighting above weight, usually.

Lennox Lewis may be the most powerful fighter to have ever lived, he had a wonderful defence, although it may be a stretch to call him defensive.
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Roy Jones.
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:53 AM   #5
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Default Re: Who were defensive fighters with good power?

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If you look at defensive fighters, you will see that often they don't have that much power. Usually it's a stylistic thing: defensive fighters don't often plant their feet and fire a shot. Guys like Pep, Whitaker, Ali, Byrd, Young, Mayweather, Tunney, etc are all great at defense but lack a punch.

So which fighters had a very good defense but could also punch? I'm talking about a defensively, non-agressive styled boxer, by the way. So while Tyson had an excellent defense in his prime, he doesn't qualify because he fights like a puncher.

Anyway, my first pick would be Jersey Joe Walcott. He was not agressive and often on the backfoot, but his right hand carried some serious power. He put Louis on his ass multiple times, knocked Marciano down (the only time he seemed to be a bit hurt, contrary to Moore's flash knockdown) and of course he has a beautiful one-punch KO over Ezzard Charles.
Any others?
Harold Johnson comes to mind
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Old 10-17-2007, 08:59 AM   #6
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Mike Spinks often fought defensively with Herky-Jerk Movement.......Until he was ready to unleash, then a marvelous predatory coheision kicked in
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:47 AM   #7
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Default Re: Who were defensive fighters with good power?

Spinks is a good choice.

Lennox Lewis? He had his Golota, Ruddock and Grant Moments but for the most part he usually fought somewhat defensively.

Joe Walcott is a great choice.

BTW ChrisPontius,

it was Walcotts left that dropped Charles and Marciano

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Old 10-17-2007, 09:55 AM   #8
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Mike Spinks often fought defensively with Herky-Jerk Movement.......Until he was ready to unleash, then a marvelous predatory coheision kicked in
Interesting call. Lets say he fought pretty lazy or laid back a lot of the time at 175 until stung into action, especially against lesser opposition. I wouldn't label him defensive or say he fits classically into Chris' criteria, but he's a good shout in his own way. He certainly fought in the asked for vein vs Qawi.

Marlon Starling had good power and was a great defensive fighter. Mike McCallum was the consumate counter puncher with superb defense and excellent power.

Actually Eddie Mustafa Muhammad comes to mind, super slick counter puncher, great defense and absolutely chilling power, sometimes camofouged a bit by his lack of aggression. Eddie is the best modern day shout i can give i reckon, one punch KO power inside a reasonably non aggressive style.
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Old 10-17-2007, 10:58 AM   #9
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BTW ChrisPontius,

it was Walcotts left that dropped Charles and Marciano
You are right. Sorry if i implied otherwise; i wasn't looking for power specifically in the right hand. Obviously Walcott could crack with both hands.

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Actually Eddie Mustafa Muhammad comes to mind, super slick counter puncher, great defense and absolutely chilling power, sometimes camofouged a bit by his lack of aggression. Eddie is the best modern day shout i can give i reckon, one punch KO power inside a reasonably non aggressive style.
Good call. What are your favorite fights of his?
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:15 PM   #10
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A couple of Afterthoughts ..what about

Naseem Hamed, (the Earlier Model was mobile, lent away from shots at crazy angles, then would counter with very heavy shots, )

Could Victor Galindez creep onto this List ?
(Built like a Tank, it was often strange to see Victor Back Off...Go to the Ropes Block and sway off the Ropes, of course Victor was playing possum, trying to Lure his opponent in, but when he let fly he could be mighty impressive and very Dangerous, Victor was very crafty indeed )

John Conteh (was an excellant Boxer with very good power)

Salvador Sanchez ?? perhaps simply just an excellany boxer.
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:14 PM   #11
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Duran had pretty dam good defense and hit like a mule.
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:26 PM   #12
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Joe Gans. RJJ.

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Old 10-17-2007, 03:32 PM   #13
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Harold Johnson comes to mind
Harold Johnson was a sharp puncher, but I think it would be a strecth to say he was a big puncher.
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Old 10-17-2007, 03:46 PM   #14
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Ricardo Lopez
Archie Moore
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Old 10-17-2007, 04:01 PM   #15
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Default Re: Who were defensive fighters with good power?

James Toney deserves a mention he had great defesense and often fought as a counter puncher. His ko's of Michael Nunn and Prince Charles Williams are good testaments to his power.
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